Archive for September, 2005

Civilisation is ending – Gay people adopting in Ireland

Friday, September 2nd, 2005

United Irelander gives his views on Gay Adoption.

He states a few things that I felt I needed to comment about:

I am of the opinion that a child needs both a mother and a father. A maternal figure, and a paternal figure.

How can one morally justify denying a child the right to a mother or a father and placing it in a same-sex environment?

It has been the way of life for human beings for thousands of years for a child to grow up with a mother and a father.

same-sex parents are contrary to the laws of human nature.

Here’s what I posted on the comments.

This concept of the traditional family model is bullshit. The way of human beings for thousands of years has in fact been for a mother to raise the kids and the father to have sfa involvement. It is only recently and in Western cultures where we have seen fathers get more involved in the raising of their kids. If you want to talk about the way it has always been then a child should be raised by the mother and all the father should do is pay for the child’s upkeep.

The tradition too except for the blip in the 19th and 20th centuries is for children to be seen as commodities for the strenghtening of the “family” and its power within a community. Again only recently are kids seen as equals in a family and not an asset to keep the farm going and an extra hand for planting potatoes.

You say two men cannot offer a mothers love. Bullshit. Are you now saying that a man is inferior to a mother when it comes to raising a child? That’s what the constitution says right now and that is why an unmarried man has fuck all rights to his child unless he marries the mother. A woman may have a better ability to raise kids because she has a mother who can pass down advice to her. Oh wait, a man can do that? Is it all about natural instincts then? Seriously, is it?

As for samesex couples raising a child going against nature, that is – it is unnatural, well that’s bullshit too. Firstly, homosexuality is natural. People are born homosexual without any outside influence and in nature itself there are lots of animals who display homosexual traits and pair with animals of the same sex.

Secondly, in nature the male is rarely there post conception. It is generally the mother and other mothers in the community of animals who tend to the needs of the young and raise the offspring. Yup, two or more females (they’d be samesex groups then) raising the young.

The fact that a gay man or woman wants to have a child at all means that the child being born into this world is deliberate. There are no accidents, there is a very well thought out plan to bring a life into the world. If someone goes into that much detail to have an offspring then I would think they are going to make good parents. There have been studies running for the past 30 years to evaluate whether kids are damaged by having same-sex parents and all the results so far show that kids do not go without, that there is no loss for not having opposite sex parents and the kids are raised just as well as if they had opp sex parents or sometimes raised even better.

As for adoption, the checks here before someone gets a kid are very rigorous and the process goes on for about 18 months before you are allowed to adopt. I’d trust the authorities on this one. They won’t let some idiot have a kid as a fashion accessory.

Traditional Family Values: Bullshit
Women better than men at raising kids: Bullshit.
Against Nature: Bullshit

BTW that press flutter yesterday was nothing new. Individuals can adopt. Unmarried couples either heterosexual or homosexual cannot. Only married couples can adopt in Ireland. The Irish Catholic said they know of 3 gay couples adopting from overseas, the adoption board were on the Last Word on TodayFM last night and said it was bullshit. A gay rights group were on and also said the same.

Adam Beecher asked me to blog this

Friday, September 2nd, 2005

This gave Adam Beecher wood.

Irish guy spams 160,00 phones – 5 people complain – €1500 fine.

Thursday, September 1st, 2005

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