Comments on: Not the best start to Open Ireland http://www.mulley.net/2012/04/21/not-the-best-start-to-open-ireland/ Invisible people have invisible rights Wed, 15 May 2013 16:09:26 +0100 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Lotto schemes for Likes | http://www.mulley.net/2012/04/21/not-the-best-start-to-open-ireland/comment-page-1/#comment-935169 Lotto schemes for Likes | Thu, 23 Aug 2012 17:55:49 +0000 http://www.mulley.net/?p=9361#comment-935169 [...] Ignoring how easy it would be to cheat this promise, you do realise you can cut out the middle man and, um, buy a Lotto ticket. Using peoples weird gambling hardon for the Lotto to gain Likes seems pretty wrong to me and is very similar to just buying followers. [...] [...] Ignoring how easy it would be to cheat this promise, you do realise you can cut out the middle man and, um, buy a Lotto ticket. Using peoples weird gambling hardon for the Lotto to gain Likes seems pretty wrong to me and is very similar to just buying followers. [...]

]]> By: Dave Davis http://www.mulley.net/2012/04/21/not-the-best-start-to-open-ireland/comment-page-1/#comment-932324 Dave Davis Sat, 05 May 2012 13:29:50 +0000 http://www.mulley.net/?p=9361#comment-932324 It is easy to spot. Here's the Redfly VS Mulley follower growth curve: http://twitpic.com/9hm2rg Almost exactly the same. And SOS VS Redfly: http://twitpic.com/9hm3l7 Not many data points to work with but you get the picture. It is easy to spot.
Here’s the Redfly VS Mulley follower growth curve:
http://twitpic.com/9hm2rg

Almost exactly the same.

And SOS VS Redfly:
http://twitpic.com/9hm3l7

Not many data points to work with but you get the picture.

]]> By: Damien Mulley http://www.mulley.net/2012/04/21/not-the-best-start-to-open-ireland/comment-page-1/#comment-932323 Damien Mulley Sat, 05 May 2012 13:16:08 +0000 http://www.mulley.net/?p=9361#comment-932323 Your clickthru rate is pretty strong too Your clickthru rate is pretty strong too

]]> By: Cormac http://www.mulley.net/2012/04/21/not-the-best-start-to-open-ireland/comment-page-1/#comment-932319 Cormac Sat, 05 May 2012 09:46:01 +0000 http://www.mulley.net/?p=9361#comment-932319 @davedavis. That would be an interesting read. My @mactrast a/c is going through a strange flux for the last 6 months. Strong growth in numbers into a slump http://twittercounter.com/compare/mactrast/3month/followers I gave a fuck for about a month but don't care now. Still getting an increase in traffic while the follower numbers drop.* I just put it down to Twitter cleaning up and deleting spam accounts. * NONE of which we ever paid for. Pretty easy to tell legit accounts by looking at followers, as you said. @davedavis. That would be an interesting read. My @mactrast a/c is going through a strange flux for the last 6 months. Strong growth in numbers into a slump http://twittercounter.com/compare/mactrast/3month/followers

I gave a fuck for about a month but don’t care now. Still getting an increase in traffic while the follower numbers drop.*

I just put it down to Twitter cleaning up and deleting spam accounts.

* NONE of which we ever paid for. Pretty easy to tell legit accounts by looking at followers, as you said.

]]> By: James FitzGerald http://www.mulley.net/2012/04/21/not-the-best-start-to-open-ireland/comment-page-1/#comment-932243 James FitzGerald Tue, 01 May 2012 16:23:31 +0000 http://www.mulley.net/?p=9361#comment-932243 Biggest question for me is WHY!!?? Why would they do this? Seems a bit of an amateur mistake? Like something I might do LOL!! After that, they always say (they're great, "they") mistakes are made, it's what you do then that really counts. Could have been handled better perhaps. In my innocence I will ask - Could someone buy spam followers for someone else's twitter account? Just wondering like. Biggest question for me is WHY!!?? Why would they do this? Seems a bit of an amateur mistake? Like something I might do LOL!! After that, they always say (they’re great, “they”) mistakes are made, it’s what you do then that really counts. Could have been handled better perhaps.

In my innocence I will ask – Could someone buy spam followers for someone else’s twitter account? Just wondering like.

]]> By: Paul Walsh http://www.mulley.net/2012/04/21/not-the-best-start-to-open-ireland/comment-page-1/#comment-932187 Paul Walsh Mon, 30 Apr 2012 05:41:13 +0000 http://www.mulley.net/?p=9361#comment-932187 Before deleting my old twitter ac with 8k followers 3 years ago people used to ask "how do I attract more followers?" Ans: you don't try to attract followers. You simply do this social stuff because you enjoy it, because you learn a lot and because you can create new relationships while strengthening others. Ego also plays a part but it's secondary. Trying to attract followers is sad, false and short sighted. And you'll end up with meaningless numbers. Buying followers is also short sighted and silly. Before deleting my old twitter ac with 8k followers 3 years ago people used to ask “how do I attract more followers?”

Ans: you don’t try to attract followers. You simply do this social stuff because you enjoy it, because you learn a lot and because you can create new relationships while strengthening others. Ego also plays a part but it’s secondary.

Trying to attract followers is sad, false and short sighted. And you’ll end up with meaningless numbers.

Buying followers is also short sighted and silly.

]]> By: David Quaid http://www.mulley.net/2012/04/21/not-the-best-start-to-open-ireland/comment-page-1/#comment-932136 David Quaid Thu, 26 Apr 2012 21:52:33 +0000 http://www.mulley.net/?p=9361#comment-932136 Hi Damien, Well written post and really interesting. It seems really odd behaviour. When someone told me about this last night, I just couldn't understand why Bill Liao would be on Fiverr. Ok, not a lot of work for $5 but are things that bad? Too true to stand up to people who buy followers and to keep the torch lighting about engagement -v- trying to build a free-to-air network. Would it be ok to play Devil's Advocate and ask if it was possible that someone could have bought "150k followers" on fiverr and also setup an account called Bill Liao ? Just for shits & giggles? <<<I>>> Unless its a locked account, you don't need permission. I mean, anyone could send 100k followers at any of our accounts - how would we defend it? Hi Damien,

Well written post and really interesting. It seems really odd behaviour.

When someone told me about this last night, I just couldn’t understand why Bill Liao would be on Fiverr. Ok, not a lot of work for $5 but are things that bad?

Too true to stand up to people who buy followers and to keep the torch lighting about engagement -v- trying to build a free-to-air network.

Would it be ok to play Devil’s Advocate and ask if it was possible that someone could have bought “150k followers” on fiverr and also setup an account called Bill Liao ? Just for shits & giggles?

<<>>

Unless its a locked account, you don’t need permission. I mean, anyone could send 100k followers at any of our accounts – how would we defend it?

]]> By: Dave Davis http://www.mulley.net/2012/04/21/not-the-best-start-to-open-ireland/comment-page-1/#comment-932065 Dave Davis Tue, 24 Apr 2012 12:43:36 +0000 http://www.mulley.net/?p=9361#comment-932065 It's pretty easy to spot. There are hundreds of twitter counter/monitoring apps out there. http://twittercounter.com/compare/Redfly/3month/followers Organic Vs paid for followers are pretty easy to spot. Same goes for facebook. There are of course exceptions to the rule (which no doubt this will be claimed as) but ultimately, it's THEIR time and money that's being wasted. A while back I wrote a blog post comparing the organic social growth vs the clearly non organic growth of some pretty (apparently) "big/popular" Irish startups and companies. I decided not to post it but it was pretty interesting. Especially considering some get acquired for millions based partially on those inflated numbers. It’s pretty easy to spot. There are hundreds of twitter counter/monitoring apps out there.

http://twittercounter.com/compare/Redfly/3month/followers

Organic Vs paid for followers are pretty easy to spot. Same goes for facebook. There are of course exceptions to the rule (which no doubt this will be claimed as) but ultimately, it’s THEIR time and money that’s being wasted.

A while back I wrote a blog post comparing the organic social growth vs the clearly non organic growth of some pretty (apparently) “big/popular” Irish startups and companies. I decided not to post it but it was pretty interesting. Especially considering some get acquired for millions based partially on those inflated numbers.

]]> By: FERGUS O'ROURKE http://www.mulley.net/2012/04/21/not-the-best-start-to-open-ireland/comment-page-1/#comment-931970 FERGUS O'ROURKE Sun, 22 Apr 2012 10:09:44 +0000 http://www.mulley.net/?p=9361#comment-931970 Not detracting from the other valuable points - though not all the points made are valuable - made above but Lars Hinrichs might like to explain this Xing press release from 2008: http://bit.ly/JhUvpt Not detracting from the other valuable points – though not all the points made are valuable – made above but Lars Hinrichs might like to explain this Xing press release from 2008:

http://bit.ly/JhUvpt

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