Comments on: And these are the questions and answers http://www.mulley.net/2009/12/19/and-these-are-the-questions-and-answers/ Invisible people have invisible rights Tue, 31 Jan 2012 15:55:22 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: cearta.ie » Trouble in the Blog O’Sphere http://www.mulley.net/2009/12/19/and-these-are-the-questions-and-answers/comment-page-1/#comment-921062 cearta.ie » Trouble in the Blog O’Sphere Wed, 03 Feb 2010 18:02:43 +0000 http://www.mulley.net/?p=7541#comment-921062 [...] Sunday Times journalist John Burns wrote a piece lamenting the shortcomings of blogging in Ireland. Leading bloggers naturally begged to differ. A month later, the spat was picked up by Trevor Butterworth [...] [...] Sunday Times journalist John Burns wrote a piece lamenting the shortcomings of blogging in Ireland. Leading bloggers naturally begged to differ. A month later, the spat was picked up by Trevor Butterworth [...]

]]> By: Ring the Bell, Close the Book « Worth Doing Badly http://www.mulley.net/2009/12/19/and-these-are-the-questions-and-answers/comment-page-1/#comment-921023 Ring the Bell, Close the Book « Worth Doing Badly Sun, 31 Jan 2010 15:57:50 +0000 http://www.mulley.net/?p=7541#comment-921023 [...] to look as if we’d done some research and not just rung a few journalist mates we spoke to Damien Mulley, asking him did he read books. “Read books? Of course I do, ” he said. And which would [...] [...] to look as if we’d done some research and not just rung a few journalist mates we spoke to Damien Mulley, asking him did he read books. “Read books? Of course I do, ” he said. And which would [...]

]]> By: Damien Mulley http://www.mulley.net/2009/12/19/and-these-are-the-questions-and-answers/comment-page-1/#comment-920657 Damien Mulley Wed, 06 Jan 2010 17:30:47 +0000 http://www.mulley.net/?p=7541#comment-920657 Una was out to inflict hurt on people for whatever reason but kicking a nest of wasps causes all sorts of ructions. Calamitsies. Una was out to inflict hurt on people for whatever reason but kicking a nest of wasps causes all sorts of ructions. Calamitsies.

]]> By: TUG http://www.mulley.net/2009/12/19/and-these-are-the-questions-and-answers/comment-page-1/#comment-920656 TUG Wed, 06 Jan 2010 15:04:51 +0000 http://www.mulley.net/?p=7541#comment-920656 I thought you were channelling Una with your "Yaysies" and "Sadsies" in your latest post and lo and behold, she goes over the top, vicariously on 20's blog... http://twentymajor.net/2010/01/05/on-irish-blogging-being-over The ironing is certainly delicious. I thought you were channelling Una with your “Yaysies” and “Sadsies” in your latest post and lo and behold, she goes over the top, vicariously on 20’s blog…

http://twentymajor.net/2010/01/05/on-irish-blogging-being-over

The ironing is certainly delicious.

]]> By: Padraig McKeon http://www.mulley.net/2009/12/19/and-these-are-the-questions-and-answers/comment-page-1/#comment-920441 Padraig McKeon Mon, 21 Dec 2009 17:39:11 +0000 http://www.mulley.net/?p=7541#comment-920441 Have to agree with most all of that Damien. To the point about comparing Twenty and TheStory - how many read the Sunday World over, say the Business Post or the Sun over the Observer - similar case, similar argument - just different field is it not. To Captain Con's point also, that erosion of the mutual interdependence between institutions of the media and politics, business and indeed others (academia, unions, etc) is broken and a new order evolves around us. Have to agree with most all of that Damien. To the point about comparing Twenty and TheStory – how many read the Sunday World over, say the Business Post or the Sun over the Observer – similar case, similar argument – just different field is it not.

To Captain Con’s point also, that erosion of the mutual interdependence between institutions of the media and politics, business and indeed others (academia, unions, etc) is broken and a new order evolves around us.

]]> By: Aaron McKenna http://www.mulley.net/2009/12/19/and-these-are-the-questions-and-answers/comment-page-1/#comment-920440 Aaron McKenna Mon, 21 Dec 2009 17:37:30 +0000 http://www.mulley.net/?p=7541#comment-920440 All I know is, half the ads in newspapers these days are in-house ads extolling the virtues of advertising in newspapers... ;-) Meanwhile, on the web I seem to be spending money I used to on print ads on an effective social media effort with a clear ROI. +1 On the other hand, bloggers ain't newspapers... I don't need to read articles from them every day. It's micro-content just the same way as we're now making micro-purchases for iPhone apps and in video games... Etc. All I know is, half the ads in newspapers these days are in-house ads extolling the virtues of advertising in newspapers… ;-) Meanwhile, on the web I seem to be spending money I used to on print ads on an effective social media effort with a clear ROI.

+1

On the other hand, bloggers ain’t newspapers… I don’t need to read articles from them every day. It’s micro-content just the same way as we’re now making micro-purchases for iPhone apps and in video games… Etc.

]]> By: Rossa McMahon http://www.mulley.net/2009/12/19/and-these-are-the-questions-and-answers/comment-page-1/#comment-920438 Rossa McMahon Mon, 21 Dec 2009 16:06:30 +0000 http://www.mulley.net/?p=7541#comment-920438 Makes no mention of the 10-strong stable of Irish Times blogs, which have a pretty decent following. Articles like this lump all blogs into one category and are effectively just talking about a technology - a pretty basic technology, at that, which is no more than an automated means of updating a particular type of website. As many have pointed out, the newspaper industry is facing more questions about its own decline than the blogging "community". The Irish Times, the Guardian, the New York Times &c have obviously decided that blogs are part of their future (even if they have yet to determine how). The comment about "squawks of online indignation if newspapers steal their material without credit" is funny. I wonder if the Sunday Times, or John Burns, would characterise infringement of its own intellectual property in such a fashion. Makes no mention of the 10-strong stable of Irish Times blogs, which have a pretty decent following.

Articles like this lump all blogs into one category and are effectively just talking about a technology – a pretty basic technology, at that, which is no more than an automated means of updating a particular type of website. As many have pointed out, the newspaper industry is facing more questions about its own decline than the blogging “community”. The Irish Times, the Guardian, the New York Times &c have obviously decided that blogs are part of their future (even if they have yet to determine how).

The comment about “squawks of online indignation if newspapers steal their material without credit” is funny. I wonder if the Sunday Times, or John Burns, would characterise infringement of its own intellectual property in such a fashion.

]]> By: Justin Mason http://www.mulley.net/2009/12/19/and-these-are-the-questions-and-answers/comment-page-1/#comment-920437 Justin Mason Mon, 21 Dec 2009 15:54:21 +0000 http://www.mulley.net/?p=7541#comment-920437 People still read the Sunday Times? People still read the Sunday Times?

]]> By: Captain Con O'Sullivan http://www.mulley.net/2009/12/19/and-these-are-the-questions-and-answers/comment-page-1/#comment-920429 Captain Con O'Sullivan Mon, 21 Dec 2009 10:08:38 +0000 http://www.mulley.net/?p=7541#comment-920429 I think the Times and other papers have got the hump because while politicos and boardroomers had this snug cosy 'relationship' with journos (ie ply them with lots of free drink and beanos to get sympathetic coverage) that model doesn't work with bloggers. I'm thoroughly enjoying the whining of politicos and dead-tree 'journalists' that their cosy little world is being disturbed. Where was the Sunday Times amid all the corruption in Irish politics over the years? Exactly. I think the Times and other papers have got the hump because while politicos and boardroomers had this snug cosy ‘relationship’ with journos (ie ply them with lots of free drink and beanos to get sympathetic coverage) that model doesn’t work with bloggers.

I’m thoroughly enjoying the whining of politicos and dead-tree ‘journalists’ that their cosy little world is being disturbed.

Where was the Sunday Times amid all the corruption in Irish politics over the years? Exactly.

]]> By: Why is the Sunday Times so afraid of bloggers? | election.ie http://www.mulley.net/2009/12/19/and-these-are-the-questions-and-answers/comment-page-1/#comment-920417 Why is the Sunday Times so afraid of bloggers? | election.ie Sun, 20 Dec 2009 20:27:47 +0000 http://www.mulley.net/?p=7541#comment-920417 [...] So the response of The Sunday Times’ trolling piece on the death of Irish blogs is alive and kicking.  I am not going to barge in and rechew all of the comment. [...] [...] So the response of The Sunday Times’ trolling piece on the death of Irish blogs is alive and kicking.  I am not going to barge in and rechew all of the comment. [...]

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