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	<title>Comments on: Chemistry&#8217;s rapid response eircom TV ad took a week&#8230;</title>
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	<description>Invisible people have invisible rights</description>
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		<title>By: Des</title>
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		<dc:creator>Des</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:10:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well if eircom say it then it must be true. After all I&#039;m sure every consumer was ringing Joe Duffy demanding that eircom stand up against the Comreg bully...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well if eircom say it then it must be true. After all I&#8217;m sure every consumer was ringing Joe Duffy demanding that eircom stand up against the Comreg bully&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Tomboktu</title>
		<link>http://www.mulley.net/2009/11/19/chemistrys-rapid-response-eircom-tv-ad-took-a-week/comment-page-1/#comment-919901</link>
		<dc:creator>Tomboktu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 12:47:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sinead Cosgrove, Chemistry: &quot;&lt;i&gt;independent research [...] showed that consumers actually wanted eircom to stand up for itself a bit more&lt;/i&gt;&quot;   and   &quot;&lt;i&gt;consumers wanted to see eircom take a stance&lt;/i&gt;&quot;.

It may just be me and the circles I move in, but I am highly dubious about this claim by Sinead Cosgrove.

It may just be my view and the circles I move it, but I don&#039;t know people who think that way about a commercial company. Consumers whom I know male choices based, on the one hand, value or choice, or, on the other hand, on political or ethical grounds. 

For example, a colleague refuses to buy fruit that has come from Israel, a friend makes a point of buying as much Fairtrade as she can get, and -- apposite given the nature of the business under discussion in this post -- I chose my mobile phone company on the basis of whether they recognise trade unions.

I &lt;i&gt;have&lt;/i&gt; heard people say they want [Enda Kenny &#124; Eamon Gilmore &#124; Brian Cowen] to stand up for themself to [Enda Kenny &#124; Eamon Gilmore &#124; Brian Cowen], and similar points made about the manager or captain of a favourite sports team. 

And I have, in some of the places I have worked, heard senior executives say that &quot;we&quot; needed to stand up to a competitor. I have also heard that line used when working in a public sector body when referring to private organisation that my employer regulates.

However, I have &lt;i&gt;never&lt;/i&gt; heard a consumer say they want their supplier of product &lt;i&gt;x&lt;/i&gt; to &quot;stand up for itself&quot; against a competitor.

If the likes of a political party (or IBEC or Congress or CORI or the NLGF) made a claim like this about a survey, I would be skeptical about that claim. And I am as skeptical about Sinead Cosgrove&#039;s claim. What form did the research take? How were the participants selected? Who was or were the independent researcher or researchers? What were the questions asked? How were they framed?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sinead Cosgrove, Chemistry: &#8220;<i>independent research [...] showed that consumers actually wanted eircom to stand up for itself a bit more</i>&#8221;   and   &#8220;<i>consumers wanted to see eircom take a stance</i>&#8220;.</p>
<p>It may just be me and the circles I move in, but I am highly dubious about this claim by Sinead Cosgrove.</p>
<p>It may just be my view and the circles I move it, but I don&#8217;t know people who think that way about a commercial company. Consumers whom I know male choices based, on the one hand, value or choice, or, on the other hand, on political or ethical grounds. </p>
<p>For example, a colleague refuses to buy fruit that has come from Israel, a friend makes a point of buying as much Fairtrade as she can get, and &#8212; apposite given the nature of the business under discussion in this post &#8212; I chose my mobile phone company on the basis of whether they recognise trade unions.</p>
<p>I <i>have</i> heard people say they want [Enda Kenny | Eamon Gilmore | Brian Cowen] to stand up for themself to [Enda Kenny | Eamon Gilmore | Brian Cowen], and similar points made about the manager or captain of a favourite sports team. </p>
<p>And I have, in some of the places I have worked, heard senior executives say that &#8220;we&#8221; needed to stand up to a competitor. I have also heard that line used when working in a public sector body when referring to private organisation that my employer regulates.</p>
<p>However, I have <i>never</i> heard a consumer say they want their supplier of product <i>x</i> to &#8220;stand up for itself&#8221; against a competitor.</p>
<p>If the likes of a political party (or IBEC or Congress or CORI or the NLGF) made a claim like this about a survey, I would be skeptical about that claim. And I am as skeptical about Sinead Cosgrove&#8217;s claim. What form did the research take? How were the participants selected? Who was or were the independent researcher or researchers? What were the questions asked? How were they framed?</p>
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