Comments on: Another gobshite wants to regulate Irish Blogging

By: Robert Synnott

Robert Synnott — Fri, 08 May 2009 14:57:26 +0000

“If you look at the title of this post “another gobshite” (this clearly refers to Simon Palmer) this alone might be considered slightly offensive and a clear indication as to the response damien wanted to generate from you Robert and the rest of his proxies.” – Ah, I vaguely assumed that you meant defamatory in the legal sense, and not in the rather more fluffy ‘being mean to people’ sense.

As to be being one of Damien’s ‘proxies’, well, the fucking cheek of you!

“For these reasons i think bloggers perhaps need to have some code of conduct, as everyone is entitled to maintain their reputation even if they want to express and opinion that is different to others on this blog” – If one expresses stupid opinions in public, then one must put up with people laughing at the stupid opinions. Newspapers do this too, by the way; see, for instance, editorials about the budget and/or opposition parties eccentric notions of what to do about the budget.

By: Concubhar

Concubhar — Fri, 08 May 2009 14:34:07 +0000

I think if you want to be taken seriously, David, about your aspirations to play the ball not the man, you should take a leaf out of your own book and stop referring to people who have criticised Simon Palmer’s contribution as ‘Damien’s Proxies’. I found Simon’s outburst to be naive and childish and that he didn’t illustrate an understanding of the online media world or the traditional media. The standards which apply in the online media sphere are as least as good as those which allowed print journalists throughout the world in many leading newspapers attribute a false made up quote to Maurice Jarre simply by sourcing it from Wikipedia. I don’t know of any proxy for Damien here – and while I appreciate that you may feel offended by the headline of this thread, you’re merely playing the man when you call people with whom you happen to disagree ‘proxies’.

By: David O Malley

David O Malley — Fri, 08 May 2009 11:54:35 +0000

Hi Robert, ( Damien )

Sorry, it was not my intention to insult anybody here, i am merely making observations.

Ok: If you look at the title of this post “another gobshite” (this clearly refers to Simon Palmer) this alone might be considered slightly offensive and a clear indication as to the response damien wanted to generate from you Robert and the rest of his proxies.

After that the mood is set and the whole thread just degenerates into an attack by Mulley communications inc, against what is an obvious business competitor.

But to try and get back to the debate Simon tried to create:

Any fair minded person would think he is entitled to raise any topic and expect to be able to engage with other bloggers in a mature debate, not to have his character ridiculed in public.

For these reasons i think bloggers perhaps need to have some code of conduct, as everyone is entitled to maintain their reputation even if they want to express and opinion that is different to others on this blog.

So please engage the ball and not the man….

By: Damien Mulley

Damien Mulley — Thu, 07 May 2009 16:00:13 +0000

Robert: Anyone that hides behind a dodgy proxy server like “David” and uses fake credentials while claiming defamation on behalf of another rings the crank bell for me.

By: Robert Synnott

Robert Synnott — Thu, 07 May 2009 15:30:45 +0000

David: Given the state of his blog, the Blog Awards point is moot, and in any case implies that Damien has some undue influence about it.

Defamation? He’s been defamed? Where? Isn’t it defamatory to incorrectly accuse somebody of defaming somebody, if done for malicious reasons?

Also, if you are going to use long complicated words like ‘conducive’ while insulting people, DO please make the effort to spell them correctly.

By: david O Malley

david O Malley — Thu, 07 May 2009 14:24:14 +0000

Simon -
From reading these previous posts i feel sorry for you for two reasons.

One: now you are certainly off the hot list of those who are going to win an award at this year’s Irish blog awards.

Two: You should have noticed that there is a core of contributors to damiens blog, and that these people have profiles and leanings that would not be considered conjusive with having any form of mature debate, espicially on topics that damien clearly dissagree’s with.

I’m actually slightly embarrassed reading some of the previous comments in this post, it appears not only are they not interested in engaging with you on this topic, but they appear intent on discrediting and defaming you as an individual, so the term playground certainly springs to mind.

But then again won’t this reply im writing be censored? Let’s see if the Mulley sensor kicks in?

By: Damien Mulley

Damien Mulley — Wed, 06 May 2009 22:33:27 +0000

Enjoy being the running joke at the PRII AGM Simon. B2B. People still use that? Seriously though, the guy that operates in the shadows feeding information to the press in a veiled manor brings up honesty and transparency. Hilarious. Oh and Simon, my blog, my blog post, how on earth is something off the point? Off you go and make your Sheriff’s badge like a good little boy.

By: Laura Daly

Laura Daly — Wed, 06 May 2009 21:25:01 +0000

OK think this may be getting to nasty.

Simon – I think you under estimate Damien, wrong move also his honesty is 100% and I think you underestimate his knowledge of media relations. I get nothing from saying this, it is just the way I have found him. But I do agree with you slagging and bullying will not advance the debate.

Damien – Hope the Paris Office is good.

By: Simon Palmer

Simon Palmer — Wed, 06 May 2009 21:16:01 +0000

I didn’t expect you to agree with me but I did expect an adult debate. You obviously have absolutely no idea how B2B media relations works. The one thing you cannot do is bullshit. Contacts are built on honesty, transparency, integrity and trust. You may love mouthing off and naming and shaming, but this is not something I am going to lower myself to. This debate is now too far off the point I was trying to make and has degenerated into bullying and a slagging off people, which is not something I want to part of. I’m out of here. Nuff said.

By: Damien Mulley

Damien Mulley — Wed, 06 May 2009 20:45:05 +0000

Being called out for peddling bullshit and running around in circles when so many people have deconstructed your fiction is hardly bullying. Calling me a bully for pointing out you have yet to back up that piece the Business Post got you to write shows your through character. You generalise bloggers and say stuff about them and give untrue examples then when called on it you say you are thinking of their wives and children so won’t back up your facts. Stick to manipulating the press. Your article showed they’re happy to be a party.