Comments on: Gilmore for Taoiseach, Bertie for President and Paisley for Pope http://www.mulley.net/2008/12/04/gilmore-for-taoiseach-bertie-for-president-and-paisley-for-pope/ Invisible people have invisible rights Tue, 31 Jan 2012 15:55:22 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Damien Mulley http://www.mulley.net/2008/12/04/gilmore-for-taoiseach-bertie-for-president-and-paisley-for-pope/comment-page-1/#comment-913714 Damien Mulley Wed, 10 Dec 2008 23:52:56 +0000 http://www.mulley.net/?p=5458#comment-913714 Dermot, that was the whole point of my commentary on age, Labour TDs and Senators are an advertisment for zimmer frames. Young people make the Gilmore posters and the old people hold each other up on stage for the photos ops. Bit of a disconnect there. Dermot, that was the whole point of my commentary on age, Labour TDs and Senators are an advertisment for zimmer frames. Young people make the Gilmore posters and the old people hold each other up on stage for the photos ops. Bit of a disconnect there.

]]> By: Dermot Looney http://www.mulley.net/2008/12/04/gilmore-for-taoiseach-bertie-for-president-and-paisley-for-pope/comment-page-1/#comment-913713 Dermot Looney Wed, 10 Dec 2008 23:37:15 +0000 http://www.mulley.net/?p=5458#comment-913713 Hi Damien et al, thanks for the comments. I am not miming the song, though Youtube may believe otherwise. The Red Flag was chosen as Labour's party anthem at the 2007 Conference. It was written by Jim Connell from Kilsyre in Co Meath in 1889 and remains the anthem of the British Labour Party, and an international socialist song, to this day. My singing may not be great as I had no time to prepare and no music to back it, but I'm proud to have been asked to lead delegates in a song which ties the narrative of Labour history and sets us apart as a party of the left. No cringes here. It's an internal song for us so not something we'd expect to be instantly positive to neutrals or others watching on YouTube, but not everything needs to be a direct or even cynical grab for votes. There were a very high proportion of young delegates at the Conference, moreso than at most other Conferences I can remember. Much of the media commentary did mention Labour Youth's influence, including the placards which have done their job of shifting debate in places such as this. The reason so few young people are on stage is because that is the general TD's/Senators scramble for pictures at the end of the Leader's Speech. I believe Eamon Gilmore would make a fantastic Taoiseach and see no reason why a false dichotomy based on a Civil War almost a century ago should provide the only alterrnative to Irish people. And from talking to people across Ireland and examining trends and commentary, a lot more people are in agreement with that analysis than before. PS - Billy Bragg is a hero :) Hi Damien et al,

thanks for the comments. I am not miming the song, though Youtube may believe otherwise. The Red Flag was chosen as Labour’s party anthem at the 2007 Conference. It was written by Jim Connell from Kilsyre in Co Meath in 1889 and remains the anthem of the British Labour Party, and an international socialist song, to this day.

My singing may not be great as I had no time to prepare and no music to back it, but I’m proud to have been asked to lead delegates in a song which ties the narrative of Labour history and sets us apart as a party of the left. No cringes here. It’s an internal song for us so not something we’d expect to be instantly positive to neutrals or others watching on YouTube, but not everything needs to be a direct or even cynical grab for votes.

There were a very high proportion of young delegates at the Conference, moreso than at most other Conferences I can remember. Much of the media commentary did mention Labour Youth’s influence, including the placards which have done their job of shifting debate in places such as this. The reason so few young people are on stage is because that is the general TD’s/Senators scramble for pictures at the end of the Leader’s Speech.

I believe Eamon Gilmore would make a fantastic Taoiseach and see no reason why a false dichotomy based on a Civil War almost a century ago should provide the only alterrnative to Irish people. And from talking to people across Ireland and examining trends and commentary, a lot more people are in agreement with that analysis than before.

PS – Billy Bragg is a hero :)

]]> By: The musings of Ian http://www.mulley.net/2008/12/04/gilmore-for-taoiseach-bertie-for-president-and-paisley-for-pope/comment-page-1/#comment-913681 The musings of Ian Tue, 09 Dec 2008 21:54:02 +0000 http://www.mulley.net/?p=5458#comment-913681 [...] to be a Labour Party member following Eamon Gilmore’s speech - despite the ribbing from Damien Mulley - For me Eamon Gilmore clearly showed that we are different from the 2 main parties. For me, he [...] [...] to be a Labour Party member following Eamon Gilmore’s speech – despite the ribbing from Damien Mulley – For me Eamon Gilmore clearly showed that we are different from the 2 main parties. For me, he [...]

]]> By: Joe Scanlon http://www.mulley.net/2008/12/04/gilmore-for-taoiseach-bertie-for-president-and-paisley-for-pope/comment-page-1/#comment-913665 Joe Scanlon Tue, 09 Dec 2008 11:38:58 +0000 http://www.mulley.net/?p=5458#comment-913665 Paddypower: Eamon Gilmore to be next Taoiseach = 16/1 Eamon Gilmore to be Taoiseach [ever] = 10/1 Paddypower:

Eamon Gilmore to be next Taoiseach = 16/1

Eamon Gilmore to be Taoiseach [ever] = 10/1

]]> By: Eoin http://www.mulley.net/2008/12/04/gilmore-for-taoiseach-bertie-for-president-and-paisley-for-pope/comment-page-1/#comment-913591 Eoin Fri, 05 Dec 2008 13:43:49 +0000 http://www.mulley.net/?p=5458#comment-913591 He was great in Vicar St last night. I don't agree with absolutely everything he says but he's nothing if not interesting. He was great in Vicar St last night. I don’t agree with absolutely everything he says but he’s nothing if not interesting.

]]> By: Craig http://www.mulley.net/2008/12/04/gilmore-for-taoiseach-bertie-for-president-and-paisley-for-pope/comment-page-1/#comment-913589 Craig Fri, 05 Dec 2008 12:54:31 +0000 http://www.mulley.net/?p=5458#comment-913589 Billy Bragg... is he the working-class socialist hero who lives in a mansion? Sometimes I forget ;-) Billy Bragg… is he the working-class socialist hero who lives in a mansion? Sometimes I forget ;-)

]]> By: Hangar Queen http://www.mulley.net/2008/12/04/gilmore-for-taoiseach-bertie-for-president-and-paisley-for-pope/comment-page-1/#comment-913581 Hangar Queen Fri, 05 Dec 2008 05:15:55 +0000 http://www.mulley.net/?p=5458#comment-913581 Here's Billy Bragg's version. One of my all time favourites. That Tannenbaum (Christmas tree) shit has to go! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9UxevnYcec&feature=related Here’s Billy Bragg’s version. One of my all time favourites.
That Tannenbaum (Christmas tree) shit has to go!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9UxevnYcec&feature=related

]]> By: Eoin http://www.mulley.net/2008/12/04/gilmore-for-taoiseach-bertie-for-president-and-paisley-for-pope/comment-page-1/#comment-913579 Eoin Fri, 05 Dec 2008 02:46:58 +0000 http://www.mulley.net/?p=5458#comment-913579 9 times indeed. Enda Kenny used it 11 times in his conference speech. 9 times indeed. Enda Kenny used it 11 times in his conference speech.

]]> By: Ciara http://www.mulley.net/2008/12/04/gilmore-for-taoiseach-bertie-for-president-and-paisley-for-pope/comment-page-1/#comment-913574 Ciara Thu, 04 Dec 2008 22:51:45 +0000 http://www.mulley.net/?p=5458#comment-913574 Is Dermot Looney miming there? Is Dermot Looney miming there?

]]> By: Stewart Curry http://www.mulley.net/2008/12/04/gilmore-for-taoiseach-bertie-for-president-and-paisley-for-pope/comment-page-1/#comment-913571 Stewart Curry Thu, 04 Dec 2008 17:27:55 +0000 http://www.mulley.net/?p=5458#comment-913571 9 times http://screencast.com/t/ERocSvEPyY ctrl+f is your friend 9 times http://screencast.com/t/ERocSvEPyY ctrl+f is your friend

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