Comments on: Jim Corr on Lisbon, 9/11 and the New World Order http://www.mulley.net/2008/05/30/jim-corr-on-lisbon-911-and-the-new-world-order/ Invisible people have invisible rights Tue, 31 Jan 2012 15:55:22 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: No Sense :: The Clockwork Chartophylax http://www.mulley.net/2008/05/30/jim-corr-on-lisbon-911-and-the-new-world-order/comment-page-2/#comment-852689 No Sense :: The Clockwork Chartophylax Fri, 20 Jun 2008 13:38:17 +0000 http://www.mulley.net/2008/05/30/jim-corr-on-lisbon-911-and-the-new-world-order/#comment-852689 [...] will use a mind ray to force people to vote Yes (though this probably sounds reasonable to the fabulously loony Jim Corr, who’ll likely be modelling a tinfoil hat on the cover of the next Corrs [...] [...] will use a mind ray to force people to vote Yes (though this probably sounds reasonable to the fabulously loony Jim Corr, who’ll likely be modelling a tinfoil hat on the cover of the next Corrs [...]

]]> By: The Lisbon Treaty: Too long; didn’t read http://www.mulley.net/2008/05/30/jim-corr-on-lisbon-911-and-the-new-world-order/comment-page-2/#comment-838503 The Lisbon Treaty: Too long; didn’t read Fri, 13 Jun 2008 14:21:15 +0000 http://www.mulley.net/2008/05/30/jim-corr-on-lisbon-911-and-the-new-world-order/#comment-838503 [...] Corr didn’t do the No side any favours when he went on national radio talking about the New World Order. Bloody idiot. I hope Tony Fenton [...] [...] Corr didn’t do the No side any favours when he went on national radio talking about the New World Order. Bloody idiot. I hope Tony Fenton [...]

]]> By: roosta http://www.mulley.net/2008/05/30/jim-corr-on-lisbon-911-and-the-new-world-order/comment-page-2/#comment-814931 roosta Sun, 01 Jun 2008 08:38:46 +0000 http://www.mulley.net/2008/05/30/jim-corr-on-lisbon-911-and-the-new-world-order/#comment-814931 <i>Hitler wanted lisbon Says:..... </i> Wow, Gowdin's Law is true... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law Hitler wanted lisbon Says:…..

Wow, Gowdin’s Law is true…

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin’s_law

]]> By: NiallOK http://www.mulley.net/2008/05/30/jim-corr-on-lisbon-911-and-the-new-world-order/comment-page-2/#comment-814632 NiallOK Sun, 01 Jun 2008 02:45:04 +0000 http://www.mulley.net/2008/05/30/jim-corr-on-lisbon-911-and-the-new-world-order/#comment-814632 Quote: "But then most you probably dont even know who Gore Vidal is." You mean the outspoken novelist and playwright who is critical of the American political establishment? Yeah, he's unbiased and impartial. Well done quoting him. His argument is bollocks anyway, because the other explanation for a jet being able to fly unimpeded into the pentagon is the lack of precedent for such a thing happening - and a lack of ability by the administration at the time to give the order to shoot down a plane full of civilians. Things don't actually happen the same in real life as they do in "24"... Quote: “But then most you probably dont even know who Gore Vidal is.”

You mean the outspoken novelist and playwright who is critical of the American political establishment? Yeah, he’s unbiased and impartial. Well done quoting him.

His argument is bollocks anyway, because the other explanation for a jet being able to fly unimpeded into the pentagon is the lack of precedent for such a thing happening – and a lack of ability by the administration at the time to give the order to shoot down a plane full of civilians. Things don’t actually happen the same in real life as they do in “24″…

]]> By: Evert Bopp http://www.mulley.net/2008/05/30/jim-corr-on-lisbon-911-and-the-new-world-order/comment-page-2/#comment-814383 Evert Bopp Sat, 31 May 2008 21:21:15 +0000 http://www.mulley.net/2008/05/30/jim-corr-on-lisbon-911-and-the-new-world-order/#comment-814383 Ray D'arcy still is a narrow minded twat though... Ray D’arcy still is a narrow minded twat though…

]]> By: 73man http://www.mulley.net/2008/05/30/jim-corr-on-lisbon-911-and-the-new-world-order/comment-page-1/#comment-814366 73man Sat, 31 May 2008 20:49:27 +0000 http://www.mulley.net/2008/05/30/jim-corr-on-lisbon-911-and-the-new-world-order/#comment-814366 @David Quinn: at least you are not being patronising. Go on off now and get your own blogs. Start with poiliticsnotconspiracies.blogspot.com? @David Quinn: at least you are not being patronising.

Go on off now and get your own blogs. Start with poiliticsnotconspiracies.blogspot.com?

]]> By: Primal Sneeze http://www.mulley.net/2008/05/30/jim-corr-on-lisbon-911-and-the-new-world-order/comment-page-1/#comment-814217 Primal Sneeze Sat, 31 May 2008 18:49:49 +0000 http://www.mulley.net/2008/05/30/jim-corr-on-lisbon-911-and-the-new-world-order/#comment-814217 Why does he say <i>box-cutters</i> and not <i>Stanley knives</i> like we all do here in Ireland? And what does he mean by <i>the war <b>of</b> terror</i>? Why does he say box-cutters and not Stanley knives like we all do here in Ireland? And what does he mean by the war of terror?

]]> By: Assemblage II « Moore Groups blog http://www.mulley.net/2008/05/30/jim-corr-on-lisbon-911-and-the-new-world-order/comment-page-1/#comment-814042 Assemblage II « Moore Groups blog Sat, 31 May 2008 16:57:24 +0000 http://www.mulley.net/2008/05/30/jim-corr-on-lisbon-911-and-the-new-world-order/#comment-814042 [...] this time with Jim Corr setting out his stall on the Lisbon Treaty on ‘The Last Word’ (via Mulley)…… I still haven’t received my booklet – clearly I’m a victim of the tiptoe totalitarians [...] [...] this time with Jim Corr setting out his stall on the Lisbon Treaty on ‘The Last Word’ (via Mulley)…… I still haven’t received my booklet – clearly I’m a victim of the tiptoe totalitarians [...]

]]> By: Mac http://www.mulley.net/2008/05/30/jim-corr-on-lisbon-911-and-the-new-world-order/comment-page-1/#comment-813593 Mac Sat, 31 May 2008 12:02:13 +0000 http://www.mulley.net/2008/05/30/jim-corr-on-lisbon-911-and-the-new-world-order/#comment-813593 Taking an objective viewpoint has nothing to do with believing or not believing the fourth estate. Look at an issue, make your own mind up and run with it. Keep it open to new ideas and don't be afraid to be challenged in your beliefs. Those who believe in conspiracy theories seem to have just as much a closed mind as those they deride. Re Jim Corr and his opinions I have to say my belief is that that was a load of hogwash. Oh and by the way the ECHR was incorporated in Ireland in 2001 as part of the Good Friday Agreement. The major criticism is that it is currently incorporated at a sub-constitutional level, but that is reflective of our status as a dualist state. The incorporation of the ECHR into the Reform Treaty provides a framework of fundamental rights that can be agreed upon by all members of the EU - there is much ECJ caselaw, esp commenced by Germany, that criticises the EU because it does not provide the same protection for fundamental freedoms as traditional constitutional structures. The development of the EU from a supranational to a quasi-federalistic state based on principles like subsidiarity demands greater efficiency in integration, which is primarily what the Reform Treaty is about. The Treaty actually increases transparency in decision making in the Commission which has been criticised hugely up to this point through its use of comitology. The Constitutional Treaty was rejected in France and the Netherlands because of national issues rather than problems with the EU. The major criticism i would have is with the apathy that exists within the electorate - and that is not just regarding issues that concern the EU. An academic called Joseph Weiler has said that there is an invasion of market mentality onto the sphere of politics where voters become consumers of political outcomes rather than active participants in the democratic process. Is this a conspiracy? Sallust said that only a few prefer liberty, most want nothing more than fair masters. I think this is probably a more pragmatic belief. Most of us do follow the herd. whether you agree with this is really down to your own beliefs. But at least form them objectively - we don't have to live in Plato's Cave. Nothing is black and white. Taking an objective viewpoint has nothing to do with believing or not believing the fourth estate. Look at an issue, make your own mind up and run with it. Keep it open to new ideas and don’t be afraid to be challenged in your beliefs. Those who believe in conspiracy theories seem to have just as much a closed mind as those they deride. Re Jim Corr and his opinions I have to say my belief is that that was a load of hogwash. Oh and by the way the ECHR was incorporated in Ireland in 2001 as part of the Good Friday Agreement. The major criticism is that it is currently incorporated at a sub-constitutional level, but that is reflective of our status as a dualist state. The incorporation of the ECHR into the Reform Treaty provides a framework of fundamental rights that can be agreed upon by all members of the EU – there is much ECJ caselaw, esp commenced by Germany, that criticises the EU because it does not provide the same protection for fundamental freedoms as traditional constitutional structures. The development of the EU from a supranational to a quasi-federalistic state based on principles like subsidiarity demands greater efficiency in integration, which is primarily what the Reform Treaty is about. The Treaty actually increases transparency in decision making in the Commission which has been criticised hugely up to this point through its use of comitology. The Constitutional Treaty was rejected in France and the Netherlands because of national issues rather than problems with the EU. The major criticism i would have is with the apathy that exists within the electorate – and that is not just regarding issues that concern the EU. An academic called Joseph Weiler has said that there is an invasion of market mentality onto the sphere of politics where voters become consumers of political outcomes rather than active participants in the democratic process. Is this a conspiracy? Sallust said that only a few prefer liberty, most want nothing more than fair masters. I think this is probably a more pragmatic belief. Most of us do follow the herd. whether you agree with this is really down to your own beliefs. But at least form them objectively – we don’t have to live in Plato’s Cave. Nothing is black and white.

]]> By: David Quinn http://www.mulley.net/2008/05/30/jim-corr-on-lisbon-911-and-the-new-world-order/comment-page-1/#comment-813047 David Quinn Sat, 31 May 2008 05:53:52 +0000 http://www.mulley.net/2008/05/30/jim-corr-on-lisbon-911-and-the-new-world-order/#comment-813047 Its quite obvious that most of you have made little or no attempt to do your own research on 911. As Gore Vidal said the only plausible explanation for a passenger jet being able to fly unimpeded into the pentagon an hour and forty minutes after the attacks kicked off is that the airforce were given an order to stand down. But then most you probably dont even know who Gore Vidal is. Its quite obvious that most of you have made little or no attempt to do your own research on 911. As Gore Vidal said the only plausible explanation for a passenger jet being able to fly unimpeded into the pentagon an hour and forty minutes after the attacks kicked off is that the airforce were given an order to stand down. But then most you probably dont even know who Gore Vidal is.

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