Comments on: Three Ireland – Banning Irish gay sites for the sake of the children? http://www.mulley.net/2008/05/13/three-ireland-banning-irish-gay-sites-for-the-sake-of-the-children/ Invisible people have invisible rights Tue, 31 Jan 2012 15:55:22 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Telecom Company Bans Access To JailBreak Sites - MacTrast http://www.mulley.net/2008/05/13/three-ireland-banning-irish-gay-sites-for-the-sake-of-the-children/comment-page-1/#comment-927300 Telecom Company Bans Access To JailBreak Sites - MacTrast Sun, 06 Feb 2011 16:58:49 +0000 http://www.mulley.net/2008/05/13/three-ireland-banning-irish-gay-sites-for-the-sake-of-the-children/#comment-927300 [...] time Three Mobile took it upon themselves to police the web. The carrier took it upon themselves to ban access to various gay websites too.It’s good to know that censorship is alive and well in western Europe. And in other news, the [...] [...] time Three Mobile took it upon themselves to police the web. The carrier took it upon themselves to ban access to various gay websites too.It’s good to know that censorship is alive and well in western Europe. And in other news, the [...]

]]> By: Pete UK http://www.mulley.net/2008/05/13/three-ireland-banning-irish-gay-sites-for-the-sake-of-the-children/comment-page-1/#comment-915758 Pete UK Tue, 24 Mar 2009 16:36:15 +0000 http://www.mulley.net/2008/05/13/three-ireland-banning-irish-gay-sites-for-the-sake-of-the-children/#comment-915758 I am a 3 mobile customer. I personally think the whole "protect the kids" excuse is an absolute joke. For instance 3 are responsible enough to request that you set up an ID login in order to access adult content, common sense for a phone I think. This allows you acces to the pay-for content supplied through the 3 store for an extra cost. Presumably you could use this same login to acces the web unrestricted proving that you are indeed an adult. However all content deemed adult is not still blocked after setting up this child protection login. Why am I still blocked when I have proved Im and adult? Well to answer that you will note that 3 have made the usefull addition of automatically redirecting you to the 3's own adult content which is accesable... for a price! What a con! Im moving to O2 first chance I get. I am a 3 mobile customer. I personally think the whole “protect the kids” excuse is an absolute joke. For instance 3 are responsible enough to request that you set up an ID login in order to access adult content, common sense for a phone I think. This allows you acces to the pay-for content supplied through the 3 store for an extra cost.

Presumably you could use this same login to acces the web unrestricted proving that you are indeed an adult.

However all content deemed adult is not still blocked after setting up this child protection login. Why am I still blocked when I have proved Im and adult?

Well to answer that you will note that 3 have made the usefull addition of automatically redirecting you to the 3’s own adult content which is accesable… for a price!

What a con! Im moving to O2 first chance I get.

]]> By: Fergal http://www.mulley.net/2008/05/13/three-ireland-banning-irish-gay-sites-for-the-sake-of-the-children/comment-page-1/#comment-798347 Fergal Sat, 24 May 2008 13:50:57 +0000 http://www.mulley.net/2008/05/13/three-ireland-banning-irish-gay-sites-for-the-sake-of-the-children/#comment-798347 i too am a three customer both pre-pay and bill-pay and the pre-pay account was blocked from accessing ANY adult orientated/themed sites however tame or harmless they were! i asked three to remove these restrictions as i had age verified my account three times since october 07 and was paying for what should have been unrestricted access! they spent three months denying they were blocking sites then claimed they could not unblock the sites as it was in the hands of an outside company! finally they were able to unblock that account and another account of a friend. it is possible to have these unnecessary restrictions lifted but it will take time and many long calls to india as i fear their customer care get paid by the length of the calls! i too am a three customer both pre-pay and bill-pay and the pre-pay account was blocked from accessing ANY adult orientated/themed sites however tame or harmless they were!

i asked three to remove these restrictions as i had age verified my account three times since october 07 and was paying for what should have been unrestricted access!

they spent three months denying they were blocking sites then claimed they could not unblock the sites as it was in the hands of an outside company!

finally they were able to unblock that account and another account of a friend.

it is possible to have these unnecessary restrictions lifted but it will take time and many long calls to india as i fear their customer care get paid by the length of the calls!

]]> By: Daragh http://www.mulley.net/2008/05/13/three-ireland-banning-irish-gay-sites-for-the-sake-of-the-children/comment-page-1/#comment-780021 Daragh Thu, 15 May 2008 13:37:49 +0000 http://www.mulley.net/2008/05/13/three-ireland-banning-irish-gay-sites-for-the-sake-of-the-children/#comment-780021 I’ve just switched back to my old network, O2, from 3. I’ve never come across a mobile network who try to dictate to me, an adult, what I can and cannot access on the Internet. I gave 3 the opportunity to remove their over-sensitive filtering from my account - they refused. When I spoke to 3's inadequately equipped customer service reps, based in Mumbai, they tried to fob me off with lines from a script (which would be better if they were the right lines), when I pressed them for more information they came back with a different story. It takes half an hour to get anywhere with the simplest of queries - too much work. All that AND then their dishonesty to the press yesterday. And I’ve received no response to my emails which I sent to customer service, to Sarah O'Neill in their PR dept (emails to Head of PR Rachel Channing bounced) – so I'm seriously unimpressed by their attitude to their customers. My partner is also taking advantage of his cooling off period and terminating his contract with 3 – they’ve just lost 2 new customers. Pity, as it would have been so easy to deal with this properly. My impression of 3 has gone through the floor. I’ve just switched back to my old network, O2, from 3.

I’ve never come across a mobile network who try to dictate to me, an adult, what I can and cannot access on the Internet.

I gave 3 the opportunity to remove their over-sensitive filtering from my account – they refused.

When I spoke to 3’s inadequately equipped customer service reps, based in Mumbai, they tried to fob me off with lines from a script (which would be better if they were the right lines), when I pressed them for more information they came back with a different story. It takes half an hour to get anywhere with the simplest of queries – too much work.

All that AND then their dishonesty to the press yesterday. And I’ve received no response to my emails which I sent to customer service, to Sarah O’Neill in their PR dept (emails to Head of PR Rachel Channing bounced) – so I’m seriously unimpressed by their attitude to their customers.

My partner is also taking advantage of his cooling off period and terminating his contract with 3 – they’ve just lost 2 new customers.

Pity, as it would have been so easy to deal with this properly. My impression of 3 has gone through the floor.

]]> By: Chris F @ QueerID.com http://www.mulley.net/2008/05/13/three-ireland-banning-irish-gay-sites-for-the-sake-of-the-children/comment-page-1/#comment-778219 Chris F @ QueerID.com Wed, 14 May 2008 18:13:53 +0000 http://www.mulley.net/2008/05/13/three-ireland-banning-irish-gay-sites-for-the-sake-of-the-children/#comment-778219 Hi Damien - apologies for signing off as a website - I didn't know the etiquette! I've corrected that above. I was merely saying that a blanket ban on gay sites could affect support sites, not that it was. Hi Damien – apologies for signing off as a website – I didn’t know the etiquette! I’ve corrected that above. I was merely saying that a blanket ban on gay sites could affect support sites, not that it was.

]]> By: Robert Synnott http://www.mulley.net/2008/05/13/three-ireland-banning-irish-gay-sites-for-the-sake-of-the-children/comment-page-1/#comment-778200 Robert Synnott Wed, 14 May 2008 18:02:39 +0000 http://www.mulley.net/2008/05/13/three-ireland-banning-irish-gay-sites-for-the-sake-of-the-children/#comment-778200 Damien (who I'd guess is not Mulley): belongto.org would be the obvious one to try. For that matter, some of the sites originally mentioned could qualify as 'support sites'. Damien (who I’d guess is not Mulley): belongto.org would be the obvious one to try. For that matter, some of the sites originally mentioned could qualify as ’support sites’.

]]> By: Damien Mulley http://www.mulley.net/2008/05/13/three-ireland-banning-irish-gay-sites-for-the-sake-of-the-children/comment-page-1/#comment-778195 Damien Mulley Wed, 14 May 2008 17:59:49 +0000 http://www.mulley.net/2008/05/13/three-ireland-banning-irish-gay-sites-for-the-sake-of-the-children/#comment-778195 What a load of bollox. Have you evidence of support sites being blocked or are you just guessing? Kind of pathetic making a statement like that about censorship when you sign off as a website, not a person. What a load of bollox. Have you evidence of support sites being blocked or are you just guessing? Kind of pathetic making a statement like that about censorship when you sign off as a website, not a person.

]]> By: QueerID.com http://www.mulley.net/2008/05/13/three-ireland-banning-irish-gay-sites-for-the-sake-of-the-children/comment-page-1/#comment-778191 QueerID.com Wed, 14 May 2008 17:56:54 +0000 http://www.mulley.net/2008/05/13/three-ireland-banning-irish-gay-sites-for-the-sake-of-the-children/#comment-778191 We were dissapointed to discover that visitors and members were being denied access to our site on Three mobile handsets as well as other gay lifestyle websites. The implication that somehow because QueerID.com is for gay people, that it is somehow unsuitable for general public consumption, is highly offensive to gay people, their family members and friends. Considering the forward looking image Three portrays in their advertising and media campaigns, their associating the word gay with being 'dirty', seems uneducated and at worst bigoted. To add insult to injury, Three contacted us this afternoon to let us know that there are no plans to unblock access to these sites, despite what you may have read in the press today. The member of staff declined to comment on this, and would not give us contact details for somebody else to speak to in the organisation. This censorship could also mean that support sites for young people coming out, or those affected by HIV (regardless of sexuality) may be blocked due to containing 'gay' content and we feel this is totally unacceptable. We were dissapointed to discover that visitors and members were being denied access to our site on Three mobile handsets as well as other gay lifestyle websites. The implication that somehow because QueerID.com is for gay people, that it is somehow unsuitable for general public consumption, is highly offensive to gay people, their family members and friends.

Considering the forward looking image Three portrays in their advertising and media campaigns, their associating the word gay with being ‘dirty’, seems uneducated and at worst bigoted. To add insult to injury, Three contacted us this afternoon to let us know that there are no plans to unblock access to these sites, despite what you may have read in the press today. The member of staff declined to comment on this, and would not give us contact details for somebody else to speak to in the organisation.

This censorship could also mean that support sites for young people coming out, or those affected by HIV (regardless of sexuality) may be blocked due to containing ‘gay’ content and we feel this is totally unacceptable.

]]> By: Daragh http://www.mulley.net/2008/05/13/three-ireland-banning-irish-gay-sites-for-the-sake-of-the-children/comment-page-1/#comment-777774 Daragh Wed, 14 May 2008 12:54:15 +0000 http://www.mulley.net/2008/05/13/three-ireland-banning-irish-gay-sites-for-the-sake-of-the-children/#comment-777774 The story makes page 19 of today's Irish Daily Mail. According to the spokesperson for 3, the UK company Blue Coat is responsible for filtering and blames them. No good reason for why people over 18 years of age have a restriction on their handset in the first place. Protecting minors doesn't stand up when the other networks can remove restrictions on request. Still no reply to my email to 3 either. Not impressed. The story makes page 19 of today’s Irish Daily Mail. According to the spokesperson for 3, the UK company Blue Coat is responsible for filtering and blames them.

No good reason for why people over 18 years of age have a restriction on their handset in the first place. Protecting minors doesn’t stand up when the other networks can remove restrictions on request.

Still no reply to my email to 3 either. Not impressed.

]]> By: tipster http://www.mulley.net/2008/05/13/three-ireland-banning-irish-gay-sites-for-the-sake-of-the-children/comment-page-1/#comment-777763 tipster Wed, 14 May 2008 12:46:29 +0000 http://www.mulley.net/2008/05/13/three-ireland-banning-irish-gay-sites-for-the-sake-of-the-children/#comment-777763 This made today's Daily Irish Mail, because of the buzz on the boards. This made today’s Daily Irish Mail, because of the buzz on the boards.

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