Comments on: Stations of the cross, True fans and micro-training classes http://www.mulley.net/2008/03/11/stations-of-the-cross-true-fans-and-micro-training-classes/ Invisible people have invisible rights Fri, 09 Jan 2009 21:53:17 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: Damien Mulley » Blog Archive » Now that’s a gig http://www.mulley.net/2008/03/11/stations-of-the-cross-true-fans-and-micro-training-classes/comment-page-1/#comment-908073 Damien Mulley » Blog Archive » Now that’s a gig Tue, 29 Jul 2008 13:13:26 +0000 http://www.mulley.net/2008/03/11/stations-of-the-cross-true-fans-and-micro-training-classes/#comment-908073 [...] of goes back to the Stations blog post I write way back when. Digg it! | Reddit | Del.icio.us | Stumble Upon | [...] [...] of goes back to the Stations blog post I write way back when. Digg it! | Reddit | Del.icio.us | Stumble Upon | [...]

]]> By: Julian http://www.mulley.net/2008/03/11/stations-of-the-cross-true-fans-and-micro-training-classes/comment-page-1/#comment-667704 Julian Thu, 13 Mar 2008 12:54:49 +0000 http://www.mulley.net/2008/03/11/stations-of-the-cross-true-fans-and-micro-training-classes/#comment-667704 When the press & others ask why we maintain a blog, I tend to trot out something about its being one way to narrow the gap that Progress has opened between buyer and seller, and to make the properly human business of commerce as human again as possible, &c. &c., because I think this is an ideal to pursue. It's not always easy or pleasant to deal direct with your fellow man, but it's definitely for the greater good. The house training idea is spot on, and the musical version something that should be done much more often, though beware the wolf in sheep's clothing before you open your house. And I'll pass on the John Spillane story. That was more than decent. When the press & others ask why we maintain a blog, I tend to trot out something about its being one way to narrow the gap that Progress has opened between buyer and seller, and to make the properly human business of commerce as human again as possible, &c. &c., because I think this is an ideal to pursue. It’s not always easy or pleasant to deal direct with your fellow man, but it’s definitely for the greater good. The house training idea is spot on, and the musical version something that should be done much more often, though beware the wolf in sheep’s clothing before you open your house. And I’ll pass on the John Spillane story. That was more than decent.

]]> By: Darren http://www.mulley.net/2008/03/11/stations-of-the-cross-true-fans-and-micro-training-classes/comment-page-1/#comment-667633 Darren Thu, 13 Mar 2008 10:22:26 +0000 http://www.mulley.net/2008/03/11/stations-of-the-cross-true-fans-and-micro-training-classes/#comment-667633 Oz, what a great story. And fair play to Spillane. I first heard him supporting Juliet Turner a couple of years ago and was an immediate fan. He was so personable, funny and kind, as is obvious from your story. Oz, what a great story. And fair play to Spillane. I first heard him supporting Juliet Turner a couple of years ago and was an immediate fan. He was so personable, funny and kind, as is obvious from your story.

]]> By: Oz http://www.mulley.net/2008/03/11/stations-of-the-cross-true-fans-and-micro-training-classes/comment-page-1/#comment-667194 Oz Wed, 12 Mar 2008 17:15:35 +0000 http://www.mulley.net/2008/03/11/stations-of-the-cross-true-fans-and-micro-training-classes/#comment-667194 There's a sad story that has to be told to get to my point, but can just ignore that bit. My aunties and uncles are fans of one John Spillane, a great Irish troubadour. Real story-telling to music stuff. He's great. My uncle, Frank, was due to see him in a gig somewhere with two of his sisters and one of his brothers but just before it came up his liver cancer - which was being contained at the time - took off and he was incapacitated. His siblings went to see the show and wouldn't shut up about how great it was. Frank, meanwhile, has one of Spillane's CDs with him in hospital. One of the attending uncles, Eoin, had a great idea that we would have a family session as we normally do, but we would ask Spillane to go a concert for us before. So there we were, holding a concert in our uncle's house (he had moved home to die), circled around what would be his death bed, singing along to the bits we knew and appropriating Spillane's musicality to jam with our rendition of "Viva la quinta brigada". In fairness to him, Spillane offered to do it for free but Eoin refused, himself being a gigging badmember and understanding the need for Spillane to make a living. It was a great concert and didn't cost too much. It was an unforgettable experience and it totally delighted Frank: apparently it was all he talked about the next day, as if seeing his smile and his singing along and applause weren't enough to tell (he was barely strong enough to lift a glass to his mouth at this stage). It made a real, postive, tangible difference to his last days. Fair play to Spillane, and thanks again if you're ever reading this. So yeah. Private concerts are a great idea :D There’s a sad story that has to be told to get to my point, but can just ignore that bit.

My aunties and uncles are fans of one John Spillane, a great Irish troubadour. Real story-telling to music stuff. He’s great. My uncle, Frank, was due to see him in a gig somewhere with two of his sisters and one of his brothers but just before it came up his liver cancer - which was being contained at the time - took off and he was incapacitated. His siblings went to see the show and wouldn’t shut up about how great it was. Frank, meanwhile, has one of Spillane’s CDs with him in hospital. One of the attending uncles, Eoin, had a great idea that we would have a family session as we normally do, but we would ask Spillane to go a concert for us before.

So there we were, holding a concert in our uncle’s house (he had moved home to die), circled around what would be his death bed, singing along to the bits we knew and appropriating Spillane’s musicality to jam with our rendition of “Viva la quinta brigada”. In fairness to him, Spillane offered to do it for free but Eoin refused, himself being a gigging badmember and understanding the need for Spillane to make a living.

It was a great concert and didn’t cost too much. It was an unforgettable experience and it totally delighted Frank: apparently it was all he talked about the next day, as if seeing his smile and his singing along and applause weren’t enough to tell (he was barely strong enough to lift a glass to his mouth at this stage). It made a real, postive, tangible difference to his last days. Fair play to Spillane, and thanks again if you’re ever reading this.

So yeah. Private concerts are a great idea :D

]]> By: Trinity http://www.mulley.net/2008/03/11/stations-of-the-cross-true-fans-and-micro-training-classes/comment-page-1/#comment-667171 Trinity Wed, 12 Mar 2008 16:00:35 +0000 http://www.mulley.net/2008/03/11/stations-of-the-cross-true-fans-and-micro-training-classes/#comment-667171 Cool idea, but hopefully it won't be like this ejit from Southill in Limerick... http://www.independent.ie/national-news/its-sitting-room-only-at-illegal-home-pub-1314088.html and there's a bit in the Examiner as well about the Gardai foiling his attempts:) Cool idea, but hopefully it won’t be like this ejit from Southill in Limerick…
http://www.independent.ie/national-news/its-sitting-room-only-at-illegal-home-pub-1314088.html
and there’s a bit in the Examiner as well about the Gardai foiling his attempts:)

]]> By: Neville Gawley http://www.mulley.net/2008/03/11/stations-of-the-cross-true-fans-and-micro-training-classes/comment-page-1/#comment-667061 Neville Gawley Wed, 12 Mar 2008 11:40:05 +0000 http://www.mulley.net/2008/03/11/stations-of-the-cross-true-fans-and-micro-training-classes/#comment-667061 Not too dissimilar to the 'Travelling Houses' idea where the party would move week to week between various houses in a locality. Music, dancing, drink and cards which of course the priesthood didn't like as they feared there was too much socialising going on and so we ended up with the Dance Hall Acts of 1935 which require you to have a dance license. (oh and the government was worried that the proceeds were being used to fund the IRA) Not too dissimilar to the ‘Travelling Houses’ idea where the party would move week to week between various houses in a locality. Music, dancing, drink and cards which of course the priesthood didn’t like as they feared there was too much socialising going on and so we ended up with the Dance Hall Acts of 1935 which require you to have a dance license.
(oh and the government was worried that the proceeds were being used to fund the IRA)

]]> By: John http://www.mulley.net/2008/03/11/stations-of-the-cross-true-fans-and-micro-training-classes/comment-page-1/#comment-667048 John Wed, 12 Mar 2008 11:20:54 +0000 http://www.mulley.net/2008/03/11/stations-of-the-cross-true-fans-and-micro-training-classes/#comment-667048 This is very much the model employed by traditional Irish musicians over the years (granted, the technical term that they use is"going back to a house for a few more tunes and another gallon of hooch") This is very much the model employed by traditional Irish musicians over the years (granted, the technical term that they use is”going back to a house for a few more tunes and another gallon of hooch”)

]]> By: Johnny http://www.mulley.net/2008/03/11/stations-of-the-cross-true-fans-and-micro-training-classes/comment-page-1/#comment-666986 Johnny Wed, 12 Mar 2008 10:21:54 +0000 http://www.mulley.net/2008/03/11/stations-of-the-cross-true-fans-and-micro-training-classes/#comment-666986 Note to self - write more on this as I plan to kick these off with artists in the summer - back garden type affairs - weather permitting. Promote on downloadmusic (see no link as I don't want to abuse 'the system'). Note to self - write more on this as I plan to kick these off with artists in the summer - back garden type affairs - weather permitting. Promote on downloadmusic (see no link as I don’t want to abuse ‘the system’).

]]> By: sean http://www.mulley.net/2008/03/11/stations-of-the-cross-true-fans-and-micro-training-classes/comment-page-1/#comment-665554 sean Tue, 11 Mar 2008 17:44:58 +0000 http://www.mulley.net/2008/03/11/stations-of-the-cross-true-fans-and-micro-training-classes/#comment-665554 Sounds intersting what topics would you suggest get covered ? and at what level? Sounds intersting what topics would you suggest get covered ? and at what level?

]]> By: Alexia http://www.mulley.net/2008/03/11/stations-of-the-cross-true-fans-and-micro-training-classes/comment-page-1/#comment-665468 Alexia Tue, 11 Mar 2008 16:58:07 +0000 http://www.mulley.net/2008/03/11/stations-of-the-cross-true-fans-and-micro-training-classes/#comment-665468 I think it's an inspired idea. How many times have you attended a discussion and at the end of it thought, I wish I could continue on? I have. Lots of times. I find that once people get past the intro stage, the real meat of the comms happens. Perhaps a more informal way of doing training or talks could kick off fresh conversations. Having it in a home or out-of-hours at a neutral venue would be cool. Cuts across red-tape. While it's all great concept, we could sit here and talk about it lots. I'd like to see this in action. Micro-training as proposed here will live or die in the community. Unless people (plural here!) get off their behinds and start some of these events (music or whatever), the idea will remain nice, tidy and pretty but still an airy-fairy ideal. I think it’s an inspired idea. How many times have you attended a discussion and at the end of it thought, I wish I could continue on? I have. Lots of times.

I find that once people get past the intro stage, the real meat of the comms happens. Perhaps a more informal way of doing training or talks could kick off fresh conversations. Having it in a home or out-of-hours at a neutral venue would be cool. Cuts across red-tape.

While it’s all great concept, we could sit here and talk about it lots. I’d like to see this in action. Micro-training as proposed here will live or die in the community. Unless people (plural here!) get off their behinds and start some of these events (music or whatever), the idea will remain nice, tidy and pretty but still an airy-fairy ideal.

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