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	<title>Comments on: Bertie on broadband &#8211; Bertie does not know where Cavan is</title>
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		<title>By: the chancer &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Notes From Chancerdom 11/02/08</title>
		<link>http://www.mulley.net/2008/02/08/bertie-on-broadband/comment-page-1/#comment-603014</link>
		<dc:creator>the chancer &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Notes From Chancerdom 11/02/08</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 00:14:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Via: Mulley.net: Bertie Ahern doesn&#8217;t know where Cavan is. Seriously. A [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Cian</title>
		<link>http://www.mulley.net/2008/02/08/bertie-on-broadband/comment-page-1/#comment-602933</link>
		<dc:creator>Cian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 23:25:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Just because data centres in Dublin have adequate bandwidth does not mean national broadband access is anywhere near an acceptable level.&quot;

Yes, and the opposition should have said something along those lines, instead we got a TD sidetracking the debate.


&quot;Your explanation on the exclusion of Cavan for the debate isnâ€™t going to win anyone over as itâ€™s simply not credible. Look at the language usage - itâ€™s simply not consistent with the way Bertie refers to â€œnational issuesâ€.&quot; 

Damien was correct, I was actually being ignorant and arrogant. I saw my way of viewing it as the only way of viewing it... I was wrong and I am sorry to everybody for that.

But I&#039;m by no way the only one who thinks he meant he just wanted to talk on a national level. Have a look at all the comments above and on the post with the video.

The Bert is known for being non-consistent and sloppy with his use of English, so, for him to come out with the &#039;Republic of Ireland&#039; instead of the &#039;country in general&#039; is far more plausible them him not knowing where Cavan is located.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Just because data centres in Dublin have adequate bandwidth does not mean national broadband access is anywhere near an acceptable level.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes, and the opposition should have said something along those lines, instead we got a TD sidetracking the debate.</p>
<p>&#8220;Your explanation on the exclusion of Cavan for the debate isnâ€™t going to win anyone over as itâ€™s simply not credible. Look at the language usage &#8211; itâ€™s simply not consistent with the way Bertie refers to â€œnational issuesâ€.&#8221; </p>
<p>Damien was correct, I was actually being ignorant and arrogant. I saw my way of viewing it as the only way of viewing it&#8230; I was wrong and I am sorry to everybody for that.</p>
<p>But I&#8217;m by no way the only one who thinks he meant he just wanted to talk on a national level. Have a look at all the comments above and on the post with the video.</p>
<p>The Bert is known for being non-consistent and sloppy with his use of English, so, for him to come out with the &#8216;Republic of Ireland&#8217; instead of the &#8216;country in general&#8217; is far more plausible them him not knowing where Cavan is located.</p>
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		<title>By: James Gallagher</title>
		<link>http://www.mulley.net/2008/02/08/bertie-on-broadband/comment-page-1/#comment-602846</link>
		<dc:creator>James Gallagher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 22:46:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cian, because Bertie conflated the issue of national broadband access with corporate access for the likes of Google and Apple the issue of broadband in counties such as Cavan had to be brought in. Just because data centres in Dublin have adequate bandwidth does not mean national broadband access is anywhere near an acceptable level. Bertie seemed to be indicating that as long as Google and other MNCs were happy with what they had, everyone else should be happy too. 

Your explanation on the exclusion of Cavan for the debate isn&#039;t going to win anyone over as it&#039;s simply not credible. Look at the language usage - it&#039;s simply not consistent with the way Bertie refers to &quot;national issues&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cian, because Bertie conflated the issue of national broadband access with corporate access for the likes of Google and Apple the issue of broadband in counties such as Cavan had to be brought in. Just because data centres in Dublin have adequate bandwidth does not mean national broadband access is anywhere near an acceptable level. Bertie seemed to be indicating that as long as Google and other MNCs were happy with what they had, everyone else should be happy too. </p>
<p>Your explanation on the exclusion of Cavan for the debate isn&#8217;t going to win anyone over as it&#8217;s simply not credible. Look at the language usage &#8211; it&#8217;s simply not consistent with the way Bertie refers to &#8220;national issues&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Cian</title>
		<link>http://www.mulley.net/2008/02/08/bertie-on-broadband/comment-page-1/#comment-602803</link>
		<dc:creator>Cian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 22:18:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Then the opposition should have no problem talking about it on a national level. But that&#039;s not what happened, a local TD hijacked the debate to get his two words in.

Instead of the problem being talked about the debate was sidetracked into nonsense about where Cavan is or isn&#039;t. If you are talking to somebody like the Bert who can easily get side tracked on their own, you don&#039;t give them an excuse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Then the opposition should have no problem talking about it on a national level. But that&#8217;s not what happened, a local TD hijacked the debate to get his two words in.</p>
<p>Instead of the problem being talked about the debate was sidetracked into nonsense about where Cavan is or isn&#8217;t. If you are talking to somebody like the Bert who can easily get side tracked on their own, you don&#8217;t give them an excuse.</p>
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		<title>By: Bock the Robber</title>
		<link>http://www.mulley.net/2008/02/08/bertie-on-broadband/comment-page-1/#comment-602718</link>
		<dc:creator>Bock the Robber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 21:36:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, Cian.  I didn&#039;t miss your point.  

There&#039;s no &quot;IF&quot; about it: broadband is a problem throughout the country, and the country isn&#039;t just Dublin -- a fact that seems to escape the attention of many.  Bertie&#039;s attempt to average out broadband performance over the whole country makes it a local issue by definition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, Cian.  I didn&#8217;t miss your point.  </p>
<p>There&#8217;s no &#8220;IF&#8221; about it: broadband is a problem throughout the country, and the country isn&#8217;t just Dublin &#8212; a fact that seems to escape the attention of many.  Bertie&#8217;s attempt to average out broadband performance over the whole country makes it a local issue by definition.</p>
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		<title>By: Cian</title>
		<link>http://www.mulley.net/2008/02/08/bertie-on-broadband/comment-page-1/#comment-602701</link>
		<dc:creator>Cian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 21:30:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damien, in that case sorry for my lack of clarity: I was actually suggesting that they are intelligence and that everybody knows exactly what he meant.

Bock the Robber: I think you missed my point, I think it&#039;s a national issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damien, in that case sorry for my lack of clarity: I was actually suggesting that they are intelligence and that everybody knows exactly what he meant.</p>
<p>Bock the Robber: I think you missed my point, I think it&#8217;s a national issue.</p>
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		<title>By: Damien</title>
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		<dc:creator>Damien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 21:23:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cian, suggesting people who left comments here lack intelligence is quite ignorant and arrogant. Ironic too because trumpet sounds please, you completely missed the points they made. By about the width of a galaxy. Slow clap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cian, suggesting people who left comments here lack intelligence is quite ignorant and arrogant. Ironic too because trumpet sounds please, you completely missed the points they made. By about the width of a galaxy. Slow clap.</p>
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		<title>By: Bock the Robber</title>
		<link>http://www.mulley.net/2008/02/08/bertie-on-broadband/comment-page-1/#comment-602664</link>
		<dc:creator>Bock the Robber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 21:18:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cian: I&#039;m guessing the broadband problem doesn&#039;t affect you.  Would I be right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cian: I&#8217;m guessing the broadband problem doesn&#8217;t affect you.  Would I be right?</p>
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		<title>By: Cian</title>
		<link>http://www.mulley.net/2008/02/08/bertie-on-broadband/comment-page-1/#comment-602653</link>
		<dc:creator>Cian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 21:14:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find it very hard to believe that any intelligent person would not know exactly what the Bert was saying.

He isn&#039;t the clearest speaker at the best of times. But it&#039;s quite apparent that when he said &quot;I am talking about the Republic of Ireland&quot;, he meant he was talking about Ireland in general. 

The &quot;Not in County Cavan&quot; from Crawford, a Cavan-Monaghan TD, is exactly what is wrong with our national parliament - it&#039;s members all too often want to get their mention of a local issue in so it&#039;ll be covered by the local papers and radio stations.

IF broadband is still a problem at national level those opposing the Government should speak about it at such a level.

As for Dermot Ahern&#039;s &quot;Fine Gael is patchy throughout Ireland&quot; comment. It&#039;s common talk that is spoken in the Dail any day of the week by all sides of the house. Singling out Dermot Ahern for it is taking it out of such context, and thus wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it very hard to believe that any intelligent person would not know exactly what the Bert was saying.</p>
<p>He isn&#8217;t the clearest speaker at the best of times. But it&#8217;s quite apparent that when he said &#8220;I am talking about the Republic of Ireland&#8221;, he meant he was talking about Ireland in general. </p>
<p>The &#8220;Not in County Cavan&#8221; from Crawford, a Cavan-Monaghan TD, is exactly what is wrong with our national parliament &#8211; it&#8217;s members all too often want to get their mention of a local issue in so it&#8217;ll be covered by the local papers and radio stations.</p>
<p>IF broadband is still a problem at national level those opposing the Government should speak about it at such a level.</p>
<p>As for Dermot Ahern&#8217;s &#8220;Fine Gael is patchy throughout Ireland&#8221; comment. It&#8217;s common talk that is spoken in the Dail any day of the week by all sides of the house. Singling out Dermot Ahern for it is taking it out of such context, and thus wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Niall</title>
		<link>http://www.mulley.net/2008/02/08/bertie-on-broadband/comment-page-1/#comment-602583</link>
		<dc:creator>Niall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 20:30:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some days I think that Bertie is a lot like George Bush. More often I think he&#039;s a lot like Mayor Quimby.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some days I think that Bertie is a lot like George Bush. More often I think he&#8217;s a lot like Mayor Quimby.</p>
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