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	<title>Comments on: The people assigned to decide Ireland&#8217;s Broadband future &#8211; International Advisory Forum on Broadband</title>
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		<title>By: Kenneth R. Carter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kenneth R. Carter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 22:34:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damein,

As a member of the Advisory Forum, I want to tell you that I truly appreciate your concerns.  The task of advancing broadband in Ireland, or any country, is no small feat.  There are, as they say, no right decisions which the goverment can make.  I can only choose the least wrong course of action.  Your commentators point to some of the seamingly intractable problems.

While Mr. Ryan&#039;s actions may or may not produce the disired results, at the very least he is trying.  He is asking the right questions and has some excellent people working for him.  I can honestly say that I wish my government was doing the same for its communciations policies, and not caught up in trivial other matters.

The rest is up to you to make sure your goverment not only tries to come up with good ideas, but also to effectively act on those ideas.

Very truly yours,
Kenneth R. Carter

P.S. As for you concerns about government waste, I flew RyanAir at a cost of about 80 euro, plus two nights in a hotel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damein,</p>
<p>As a member of the Advisory Forum, I want to tell you that I truly appreciate your concerns.  The task of advancing broadband in Ireland, or any country, is no small feat.  There are, as they say, no right decisions which the goverment can make.  I can only choose the least wrong course of action.  Your commentators point to some of the seamingly intractable problems.</p>
<p>While Mr. Ryan&#8217;s actions may or may not produce the disired results, at the very least he is trying.  He is asking the right questions and has some excellent people working for him.  I can honestly say that I wish my government was doing the same for its communciations policies, and not caught up in trivial other matters.</p>
<p>The rest is up to you to make sure your goverment not only tries to come up with good ideas, but also to effectively act on those ideas.</p>
<p>Very truly yours,<br />
Kenneth R. Carter</p>
<p>P.S. As for you concerns about government waste, I flew RyanAir at a cost of about 80 euro, plus two nights in a hotel.</p>
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		<title>By: Damien Mulley &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Eamon Ryan&#8217;s One day meeting on broadband costs taxpayers â‚¬50k</title>
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		<dc:creator>Damien Mulley &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Eamon Ryan&#8217;s One day meeting on broadband costs taxpayers â‚¬50k</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:36:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to my site using a feedreader or email. Thanks for visiting - Damien.From a question about the International Advisory Forum on Broadband.  222. Deputy Simon Coveney asked the Minister for Communications, Energy and Natural Resources the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] to my site using a feedreader or email. Thanks for visiting &#8211; Damien.From a question about the International Advisory Forum on Broadband.  222. Deputy Simon Coveney asked the Minister for Communications, Energy and Natural Resources the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: barry</title>
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		<dc:creator>barry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 14:36:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now, I have been accused by Damien if being a &#039;green party apologist&#039; - but this time I think Ryan has completely lost it. What the fuck is this &#039;Forum&#039;? another talking shop to avoid doing anything. My question, what is behind it?? While trying not to be an apologist I would have thought Ryan was better informed. He surely doesn&#039;t think this construction will deliver anything.

My read - the whole gov is shit scared about the possibility that B&amp;B will dump part of Eircom, creating redundancies all over the place. This is a real possibility if B&amp;B don&#039;t get what they want in a breakup..... So Ryan is requiired to row in and not interfere with B&amp;B/Eircom&#039;s special status.... i.e. they can continue to drag their feet on LLU and suchlike....while the Forum suggests what can be done....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now, I have been accused by Damien if being a &#8216;green party apologist&#8217; &#8211; but this time I think Ryan has completely lost it. What the fuck is this &#8216;Forum&#8217;? another talking shop to avoid doing anything. My question, what is behind it?? While trying not to be an apologist I would have thought Ryan was better informed. He surely doesn&#8217;t think this construction will deliver anything.</p>
<p>My read &#8211; the whole gov is shit scared about the possibility that B&amp;B will dump part of Eircom, creating redundancies all over the place. This is a real possibility if B&amp;B don&#8217;t get what they want in a breakup&#8230;.. So Ryan is requiired to row in and not interfere with B&amp;B/Eircom&#8217;s special status&#8230;. i.e. they can continue to drag their feet on LLU and suchlike&#8230;.while the Forum suggests what can be done&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Damian Beresford</title>
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		<dc:creator>Damian Beresford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 12:23:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lets hope they look to Japan:

&#039;Its average advertised download speed is 95 megabits per second&#039; http://www.economist.com/world/international/displaystory.cfm?story_id=10534573

we live in the equivalent of a boreen in broadband super highway terms!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lets hope they look to Japan:</p>
<p>&#8216;Its average advertised download speed is 95 megabits per second&#8217; <a href="http://www.economist.com/world/international/displaystory.cfm?story_id=10534573" rel="nofollow">http://www.economist.com/world/international/displaystory.cfm?story_id=10534573</a></p>
<p>we live in the equivalent of a boreen in broadband super highway terms!</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Minch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen Minch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 20:26:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You may remember Brian Thompson from the original Telecom Eireann floatation. He was parachuted in to replace Ron Bolger as chairman because he had a higher profile in telecomms. Just before the floatation he buggered off because he got a better offer from elsewhere. Mary O&#039;Rourke was left high and dry. Who to get with only weeks to go ?
Step forward Mr Raymond McSharry the well known telecomms expert.

Mr Thompson should not be given another cent of irish taxpayer&#039;s money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You may remember Brian Thompson from the original Telecom Eireann floatation. He was parachuted in to replace Ron Bolger as chairman because he had a higher profile in telecomms. Just before the floatation he buggered off because he got a better offer from elsewhere. Mary O&#8217;Rourke was left high and dry. Who to get with only weeks to go ?<br />
Step forward Mr Raymond McSharry the well known telecomms expert.</p>
<p>Mr Thompson should not be given another cent of irish taxpayer&#8217;s money.</p>
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		<title>By: pat phelan</title>
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		<dc:creator>pat phelan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 14:44:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry guys I had to turn them down. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry guys I had to turn them down. <img src='http://www.mulley.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Cormac</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cormac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 14:34:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suppose they will have to spell the word duct out to Eamonn as well . Its spelt Duct Eamonn and no feathery critters will be harmed.

The sheer stupidity of this man and his coterie of advisers astounds me. 

He ALREADY OWNS AN NGN ( on behalf of the people of Ireland ) . 

He is the ONLY shareholder in this NGN. 

Its called ESB Telecoms and owns the ESB fibre ring .

Spare me please before I go postal on him :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suppose they will have to spell the word duct out to Eamonn as well . Its spelt Duct Eamonn and no feathery critters will be harmed.</p>
<p>The sheer stupidity of this man and his coterie of advisers astounds me. </p>
<p>He ALREADY OWNS AN NGN ( on behalf of the people of Ireland ) . </p>
<p>He is the ONLY shareholder in this NGN. </p>
<p>Its called ESB Telecoms and owns the ESB fibre ring .</p>
<p>Spare me please before I go postal on him <img src='http://www.mulley.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Sinead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sinead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 14:05:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Words on paper that cost thousands of euro and &quot;plans&quot; that never get implemented. 

The usual then.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Words on paper that cost thousands of euro and &#8220;plans&#8221; that never get implemented. </p>
<p>The usual then.</p>
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		<title>By: Evert Bopp</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evert Bopp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 13:47:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In short; do these people know how to wipe their own arse?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In short; do these people know how to wipe their own arse?</p>
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		<title>By: Evert Bopp</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evert Bopp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 13:46:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So they hire a &quot;broadband strategy manager&quot; and then still have to spend money on an advisory panel?!
How about they read the information that&#039;s available out there, take an example from situations where a succesfull solution was applied and adapt that to Irish needs?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So they hire a &#8220;broadband strategy manager&#8221; and then still have to spend money on an advisory panel?!<br />
How about they read the information that&#8217;s available out there, take an example from situations where a succesfull solution was applied and adapt that to Irish needs?</p>
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