Comments on: Did Tony Gregory violate privacy for the sake of the anti-hunt lobby? http://www.mulley.net/2008/01/20/did-tony-gregory-violate-privacy-for-the-sake-of-the-anti-hunt-lobby/ Invisible people have invisible rights Tue, 31 Jan 2012 15:55:22 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Cormac http://www.mulley.net/2008/01/20/did-tony-gregory-violate-privacy-for-the-sake-of-the-anti-hunt-lobby/comment-page-1/#comment-560747 Cormac Mon, 21 Jan 2008 23:37:00 +0000 http://www.mulley.net/2008/01/20/did-tony-gregory-violate-privacy-for-the-sake-of-the-anti-hunt-lobby/#comment-560747 I make an exception for morality and involving estate agents . I make a further exeption or two for morality and involving estate agents who have a hobby that involves persecuting dumb animals as a sport after they finish a weeks work persecuting other dumb animals for profit. Consider it a karma issue that transcends all technical DP issues Treasa, if you will :) I make an exception for morality and involving estate agents .

I make a further exeption or two for morality and involving estate agents who have a hobby that involves persecuting dumb animals as a sport after they finish a weeks work persecuting other dumb animals for profit.

Consider it a karma issue that transcends all technical DP issues Treasa, if you will :)

]]> By: treasa http://www.mulley.net/2008/01/20/did-tony-gregory-violate-privacy-for-the-sake-of-the-anti-hunt-lobby/comment-page-1/#comment-560607 treasa Mon, 21 Jan 2008 21:29:13 +0000 http://www.mulley.net/2008/01/20/did-tony-gregory-violate-privacy-for-the-sake-of-the-anti-hunt-lobby/#comment-560607 Cormac, would it change things if the two concerned were nurses or bin collectors? The issue here is not what they do for a living, it's whether it's right for their details to be passed to a third party lobby organisation by a TD and for that third party to use those details and target their employers. I don't think it's right and I don't think it's morally justifiable. Cormac,

would it change things if the two concerned were nurses or bin collectors? The issue here is not what they do for a living, it’s whether it’s right for their details to be passed to a third party lobby organisation by a TD and for that third party to use those details and target their employers.

I don’t think it’s right and I don’t think it’s morally justifiable.

]]> By: Cormac http://www.mulley.net/2008/01/20/did-tony-gregory-violate-privacy-for-the-sake-of-the-anti-hunt-lobby/comment-page-1/#comment-560002 Cormac Mon, 21 Jan 2008 12:28:02 +0000 http://www.mulley.net/2008/01/20/did-tony-gregory-violate-privacy-for-the-sake-of-the-anti-hunt-lobby/#comment-560002 What is this about Estate Agents and their irrational ( or programmed) desire to kill animals ??? If Tony were to allow Estate Agents to be classed as 'animals' and if we could form a 'hunt' and then hunt them down at the weekends for 'sport' I can therein see an equitable resolution to this whole mess. These same estate agents are the ones who conjure "phantom bidders" out of thin air at a whim. Thats quite an unusual problem for anyone concerned with data protection issues in the abstract because when you bid ( a data item) you are then forced to bid against a non data item invented by the estate agent . Should one be entitled to full disclosure of what , in effect , is nothing ....a bagatelle in DP terms. They are fundamentally undeserving of our sympathy....just like that fannywaters fella really . Lets move onto Oil and Gas exploration in Moyross ! What is this about Estate Agents and their irrational ( or programmed) desire to kill animals ???

If Tony were to allow Estate Agents to be classed as ‘animals’ and if we could form a ‘hunt’ and then hunt them down at the weekends for ’sport’ I can therein see an equitable resolution to this whole mess.

These same estate agents are the ones who conjure “phantom bidders” out of thin air at a whim.

Thats quite an unusual problem for anyone concerned with data protection issues in the abstract because when you bid ( a data item) you are then forced to bid against a non data item invented by the estate agent . Should one be entitled to full disclosure of what , in effect , is nothing ….a bagatelle in DP terms.

They are fundamentally undeserving of our sympathy….just like that fannywaters fella really .

Lets move onto Oil and Gas exploration in Moyross !

]]> By: Keith http://www.mulley.net/2008/01/20/did-tony-gregory-violate-privacy-for-the-sake-of-the-anti-hunt-lobby/comment-page-1/#comment-559787 Keith Mon, 21 Jan 2008 09:18:19 +0000 http://www.mulley.net/2008/01/20/did-tony-gregory-violate-privacy-for-the-sake-of-the-anti-hunt-lobby/#comment-559787 TDs are data protection "units", and are required to register with the Commissioner. Unless she wrote to him at a @feckoffhunters.ie email address, it's correspondence to a TD, in which case: 1) It's privileged information as a TD's 'papers' 2) There's a data protection issue because he shouldn't be revealing the person's name without permission 3) All correspondence to a TD has generally been considered confidential in the courts in the past (e.g. the Howlin case - although the information could be demanded by court order, it was not releasable without a court order) 4) He shouldn't be doing it regardless of what the legal or data protection consequences are TDs are data protection “units”, and are required to register with the Commissioner. Unless she wrote to him at a @feckoffhunters.ie email address, it’s correspondence to a TD, in which case:
1) It’s privileged information as a TD’s ‘papers’
2) There’s a data protection issue because he shouldn’t be revealing the person’s name without permission
3) All correspondence to a TD has generally been considered confidential in the courts in the past (e.g. the Howlin case – although the information could be demanded by court order, it was not releasable without a court order)
4) He shouldn’t be doing it regardless of what the legal or data protection consequences are

]]> By: squid http://www.mulley.net/2008/01/20/did-tony-gregory-violate-privacy-for-the-sake-of-the-anti-hunt-lobby/comment-page-1/#comment-559281 squid Mon, 21 Jan 2008 00:48:28 +0000 http://www.mulley.net/2008/01/20/did-tony-gregory-violate-privacy-for-the-sake-of-the-anti-hunt-lobby/#comment-559281 Update http://www.irishexaminer.com/irishexaminer/pages/story.aspx-qqqg=ireland-qqqm=ireland-qqqa=ireland-qqqid=53137-qqqx=1.asp Update
http://www.irishexaminer.com/irishexaminer/pages/story.aspx-qqqg=ireland-qqqm=ireland-qqqa=ireland-qqqid=53137-qqqx=1.asp

]]> By: Cormac http://www.mulley.net/2008/01/20/did-tony-gregory-violate-privacy-for-the-sake-of-the-anti-hunt-lobby/comment-page-1/#comment-559215 Cormac Sun, 20 Jan 2008 23:36:09 +0000 http://www.mulley.net/2008/01/20/did-tony-gregory-violate-privacy-for-the-sake-of-the-anti-hunt-lobby/#comment-559215 on the other hand if she did not realise while spamming *.*@oireachtas.ie that he is a non hunter as well as a TD then _tou_ bleedin _ché_ missus ! either way _tou_ bleedin _ché_ missus. You still have a job in Estate Agency at a historically trying time for your 'profession' . Do not take this out on a deer please. on the other hand if she did not realise while spamming *.*@oireachtas.ie that he is a non hunter as well as a TD then _tou_ bleedin _ché_ missus !

either way _tou_ bleedin _ché_ missus.

You still have a job in Estate Agency at a historically trying time for your ‘profession’ . Do not take this out on a deer please.

]]> By: Cormac http://www.mulley.net/2008/01/20/did-tony-gregory-violate-privacy-for-the-sake-of-the-anti-hunt-lobby/comment-page-1/#comment-559204 Cormac Sun, 20 Jan 2008 23:24:32 +0000 http://www.mulley.net/2008/01/20/did-tony-gregory-violate-privacy-for-the-sake-of-the-anti-hunt-lobby/#comment-559204 If she emailed Tony in his capacity as a non hunter not in his capacity as a TD then _tou_ bleedin _ché_ missus ! If she emailed Tony in his capacity as a non hunter not in his capacity as a TD then _tou_ bleedin _ché_ missus !

]]> By: dahamsta http://www.mulley.net/2008/01/20/did-tony-gregory-violate-privacy-for-the-sake-of-the-anti-hunt-lobby/comment-page-1/#comment-559067 dahamsta Sun, 20 Jan 2008 21:32:24 +0000 http://www.mulley.net/2008/01/20/did-tony-gregory-violate-privacy-for-the-sake-of-the-anti-hunt-lobby/#comment-559067 Looks like a violation of the law to me. Wouldn't a TD be a data controller both directly (his constituents) and indirectly (as a candidate)? adam Looks like a violation of the law to me. Wouldn’t a TD be a data controller both directly (his constituents) and indirectly (as a candidate)?

adam

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