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	<title>Comments on: Regulatory Capture &#8211; Green Minister completely sells out</title>
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		<title>By: Damien Mulley &#187; Blog Archive &#187; How the Green Party and Eamon Ryan are doing more damage to broadband than FF ever did</title>
		<link>http://www.mulley.net/2007/07/01/regulatory-capture-green-minister-completely-sells-out/comment-page-1/#comment-418331</link>
		<dc:creator>Damien Mulley &#187; Blog Archive &#187; How the Green Party and Eamon Ryan are doing more damage to broadband than FF ever did</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Oct 2007 17:58:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] bad enough that a once respectable politican joined a Government with the devil and took the Fianna Fail boilerplate for broadband excuses and perverted them to new lows and along the way had an Irish Times journalist join in further damaging Ireland by [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] bad enough that a once respectable politican joined a Government with the devil and took the Fianna Fail boilerplate for broadband excuses and perverted them to new lows and along the way had an Irish Times journalist join in further damaging Ireland by [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Barry</title>
		<link>http://www.mulley.net/2007/07/01/regulatory-capture-green-minister-completely-sells-out/comment-page-1/#comment-327953</link>
		<dc:creator>Barry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2007 10:01:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have we any input from somebody who was actually at the ComReg party?? From my experience the handout is written long beforehand, did he actually say that at the event?? If he did then all the comment about sellout is valid. He should/could have used the actual presentation to make some remarks about his intentions. 

Of course the Dail Committee stuff is the answer, can we arrange a Dail question to Ryan on when he will implement that. (that is when they come back from their hols....)

Bye, Barry</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have we any input from somebody who was actually at the ComReg party?? From my experience the handout is written long beforehand, did he actually say that at the event?? If he did then all the comment about sellout is valid. He should/could have used the actual presentation to make some remarks about his intentions. </p>
<p>Of course the Dail Committee stuff is the answer, can we arrange a Dail question to Ryan on when he will implement that. (that is when they come back from their hols&#8230;.)</p>
<p>Bye, Barry</p>
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		<title>By: Bock the Robber</title>
		<link>http://www.mulley.net/2007/07/01/regulatory-capture-green-minister-completely-sells-out/comment-page-1/#comment-312875</link>
		<dc:creator>Bock the Robber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2007 02:33:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eircom?

Eircom?

Would that be the same Eircom that the government gave away almost free to Tony O Reilly?  The same Eircom that used to be Telecom Eireann, paid for by the taxpayer, but which is now a private company owned by a crowd of Australian asset-strippers?

Ah right.   the same.

So why the fuck would we expect them to have any morals whatsoever?

Let&#039;s move on and build a new telecomms infrastructure the very same as the one we used to call Eircom.  (Which our government handed over to a wanker with a dodgy honorary degree and a very loud voice.  Free.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eircom?</p>
<p>Eircom?</p>
<p>Would that be the same Eircom that the government gave away almost free to Tony O Reilly?  The same Eircom that used to be Telecom Eireann, paid for by the taxpayer, but which is now a private company owned by a crowd of Australian asset-strippers?</p>
<p>Ah right.   the same.</p>
<p>So why the fuck would we expect them to have any morals whatsoever?</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s move on and build a new telecomms infrastructure the very same as the one we used to call Eircom.  (Which our government handed over to a wanker with a dodgy honorary degree and a very loud voice.  Free.)</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Young</title>
		<link>http://www.mulley.net/2007/07/01/regulatory-capture-green-minister-completely-sells-out/comment-page-1/#comment-312453</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 15:44:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah that&#039;s true. Mary O&#039;Rourke has a whole lot to answer for really and she gets re-elected.

Like many other countries the state should have retained some sort of control if not in poison pill terms.

Ah well, what can we do?

I for one don&#039;t think the suggestion of proceeding with unbundling is viable owing to the really poor state of the copper networks. BTs plans while developing are a little bit behind the curve. The only advantage of subloop unbundling for example is to an incumbent.

eircom&#039;s plans for the future are only really there to reduce regulation, completely flumox ComReg and compete with UPC/Liberty media. No other reason.

Possible that we&#039;ll see asset sales given time. Also might cross reference the program for government on same.

We are now nationally at a point where we have to rely very heavily on operators who are in markets such as the UK, US and NL to ensure we are not brough along up the stream enjoying the journey that is  supposed to be deregulation.

We may need to look to the US in fact.

I was going to correct Damien on the &quot;Regulatory Capture&quot; caption of the post, but seeing as its hard to find positive delineations at the moment between indepedent regulator and ministry perhaps it works. One thing for sure is that it does and will not work for Ireland Inc.

This is my view.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah that&#8217;s true. Mary O&#8217;Rourke has a whole lot to answer for really and she gets re-elected.</p>
<p>Like many other countries the state should have retained some sort of control if not in poison pill terms.</p>
<p>Ah well, what can we do?</p>
<p>I for one don&#8217;t think the suggestion of proceeding with unbundling is viable owing to the really poor state of the copper networks. BTs plans while developing are a little bit behind the curve. The only advantage of subloop unbundling for example is to an incumbent.</p>
<p>eircom&#8217;s plans for the future are only really there to reduce regulation, completely flumox ComReg and compete with UPC/Liberty media. No other reason.</p>
<p>Possible that we&#8217;ll see asset sales given time. Also might cross reference the program for government on same.</p>
<p>We are now nationally at a point where we have to rely very heavily on operators who are in markets such as the UK, US and NL to ensure we are not brough along up the stream enjoying the journey that is  supposed to be deregulation.</p>
<p>We may need to look to the US in fact.</p>
<p>I was going to correct Damien on the &#8220;Regulatory Capture&#8221; caption of the post, but seeing as its hard to find positive delineations at the moment between indepedent regulator and ministry perhaps it works. One thing for sure is that it does and will not work for Ireland Inc.</p>
<p>This is my view.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymoose</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymoose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 15:18:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a suggestion.
Eircom could Unbundle all the local loops.
They could ask BT how they manage to get a 99.9% DSL coverage in the UK and a 100% coverage in the north? It&#039;s not that difficult. 
Eircom however has been asset stripped twice by private equity vultures and now don&#039;t have a pot to piss in. They can&#039;t give the customers what they want because they have no money to invest. And the government envisages doing the same thing with the ESB. Privitisation fuck-ups in the name of competition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a suggestion.<br />
Eircom could Unbundle all the local loops.<br />
They could ask BT how they manage to get a 99.9% DSL coverage in the UK and a 100% coverage in the north? It&#8217;s not that difficult.<br />
Eircom however has been asset stripped twice by private equity vultures and now don&#8217;t have a pot to piss in. They can&#8217;t give the customers what they want because they have no money to invest. And the government envisages doing the same thing with the ESB. Privitisation fuck-ups in the name of competition.</p>
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		<title>By: Damien</title>
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		<dc:creator>Damien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 14:53:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Positive or negative, I don&#039;t care, but you&#039;re the person that said he was too busy to read my blog posts properly, yet takes time out of his hectic schedule to leave comments on the posts he has no time to read properly and to complain then that he gets a hostile reaction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Positive or negative, I don&#8217;t care, but you&#8217;re the person that said he was too busy to read my blog posts properly, yet takes time out of his hectic schedule to leave comments on the posts he has no time to read properly and to complain then that he gets a hostile reaction.</p>
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		<title>By: Evert</title>
		<link>http://www.mulley.net/2007/07/01/regulatory-capture-green-minister-completely-sells-out/comment-page-1/#comment-312424</link>
		<dc:creator>Evert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 14:46:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>linking = liking</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>linking = liking</p>
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		<title>By: Evert</title>
		<link>http://www.mulley.net/2007/07/01/regulatory-capture-green-minister-completely-sells-out/comment-page-1/#comment-312423</link>
		<dc:creator>Evert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 14:45:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Would me only leaving positive comments make you feel better?
You&#039;re in the public eye and your blog gets linked from a number of other sources. By making public postings you invite public comments. Not all of these will be to your linking, that&#039;s life...

E.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would me only leaving positive comments make you feel better?<br />
You&#8217;re in the public eye and your blog gets linked from a number of other sources. By making public postings you invite public comments. Not all of these will be to your linking, that&#8217;s life&#8230;</p>
<p>E.</p>
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		<title>By: Damien</title>
		<link>http://www.mulley.net/2007/07/01/regulatory-capture-green-minister-completely-sells-out/comment-page-1/#comment-312417</link>
		<dc:creator>Damien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 14:38:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But not apparently busy enough to leave negative comments on this blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But not apparently busy enough to leave negative comments on this blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Evert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 14:34:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damien, stop having a hissy fit. 
My comment was not aimed solely at you but also at the other people commenting. You are not the only person with an interest in this subject.
But yes it was ALSO a dig at you as you have avoided any discussion with me on the subject and have always responded with criticism rather than answers.
I am far to busy to peruse every detail of your blog but nay-saying prevails over constructive criticism as far as I can see....

E.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damien, stop having a hissy fit.<br />
My comment was not aimed solely at you but also at the other people commenting. You are not the only person with an interest in this subject.<br />
But yes it was ALSO a dig at you as you have avoided any discussion with me on the subject and have always responded with criticism rather than answers.<br />
I am far to busy to peruse every detail of your blog but nay-saying prevails over constructive criticism as far as I can see&#8230;.</p>
<p>E.</p>
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