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	<title>Comments on: Hello 3G, bye bye hotspots . Hello again 3G bye bye WiMax. Hello &#8230;</title>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://www.mulley.net/2007/05/30/hello-3g-bye-bye-hotspots-hello-again-3g-bye-bye-wimax-hello/#comment-432103</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 09:42:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>3G is a beauty but for sending email - too often I have to revert to GPRS via phone</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>3G is a beauty but for sending email - too often I have to revert to GPRS via phone</p>
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		<title>By: Lex Ferenda &#187; 3G or not 3G</title>
		<link>http://www.mulley.net/2007/05/30/hello-3g-bye-bye-hotspots-hello-again-3g-bye-bye-wimax-hello/#comment-364216</link>
		<dc:creator>Lex Ferenda &#187; 3G or not 3G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 10:14:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 3G&#8217;s Gift To Humankind says technology journalisat Karlin Lillington, today. Blogger and writer Damien Mulleywrote (back in May) that the end was nigh for overpriced wifi (and more!) We&#8217;re talking about broadband Internet access over 3G networks (with a fallback to GPRS out of coverage). With a cute little box you can add to your desktop or laptop or whatever (i.e. it&#8217;s not necessairly via a phone). [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 3G&#8217;s Gift To Humankind says technology journalisat Karlin Lillington, today. Blogger and writer Damien Mulleywrote (back in May) that the end was nigh for overpriced wifi (and more!) We&#8217;re talking about broadband Internet access over 3G networks (with a fallback to GPRS out of coverage). With a cute little box you can add to your desktop or laptop or whatever (i.e. it&#8217;s not necessairly via a phone). [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://www.mulley.net/2007/05/30/hello-3g-bye-bye-hotspots-hello-again-3g-bye-bye-wimax-hello/#comment-264657</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2007 23:03:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It will be interesting indeed to see what happens to public WiFi &#38; Wimax.  For the most part 3G is the answer to mobile broadband, what will happen to "portable" products like Clearwire &#38; Irish Broadband's RipWave?  Consigned to the bin I suspect.  Wimax hasn't really lived up to the marketing, it's good tech for FWA but too little and too late for broadband access in general I think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It will be interesting indeed to see what happens to public WiFi &amp; Wimax.  For the most part 3G is the answer to mobile broadband, what will happen to &#8220;portable&#8221; products like Clearwire &amp; Irish Broadband&#8217;s RipWave?  Consigned to the bin I suspect.  Wimax hasn&#8217;t really lived up to the marketing, it&#8217;s good tech for FWA but too little and too late for broadband access in general I think.</p>
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		<title>By: squid</title>
		<link>http://www.mulley.net/2007/05/30/hello-3g-bye-bye-hotspots-hello-again-3g-bye-bye-wimax-hello/#comment-263798</link>
		<dc:creator>squid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2007 02:42:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the subject of count centres with WiFi, I have to say the one at the Limerick Racecourse was pretty stady, if too slow to upload videos, perfectly acceptable for posting blog entries though.  and it was open access too which was handy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the subject of count centres with WiFi, I have to say the one at the Limerick Racecourse was pretty stady, if too slow to upload videos, perfectly acceptable for posting blog entries though.  and it was open access too which was handy.</p>
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		<title>By: Evert</title>
		<link>http://www.mulley.net/2007/05/30/hello-3g-bye-bye-hotspots-hello-again-3g-bye-bye-wimax-hello/#comment-263123</link>
		<dc:creator>Evert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 12:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Antoin,

While what you say is true it applies to any wireless service (GPRS, 3G, WiFi, Wimax etc.) as well as wired services. Overload any network and it will die, period. 

One difference that wireless service encounter and that not applies to wired services is the fact that subscribers farther away require more power or more conservative channel coding which in turn decreases the overall bandwidth available in the cell. Therefore it is correct to say that far away users reduce the bandwidth available for other users in the cell. With HSDPA however, the effect might be weaker as here it's up to the scheduler in the cell to decide that slow users do not eat up too much bandwidth. 

But, and that's the big but, networks are designed to take far away users into account, so you kind of live with the phenomenon. So the more load gets on the network the more cell sites are of course required or each cell site needs to be equipped with better antennas, more sectors or a second transmitter per sector. But an increase in users will also result in an increase in revenue and will quite likely lead to the operators expanding their network.

I find it also typical that now that there is an service that could fill some of the gao left by the low DSL penetration that the first reaction seems to find fault with it....

E.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Antoin,</p>
<p>While what you say is true it applies to any wireless service (GPRS, 3G, WiFi, Wimax etc.) as well as wired services. Overload any network and it will die, period. </p>
<p>One difference that wireless service encounter and that not applies to wired services is the fact that subscribers farther away require more power or more conservative channel coding which in turn decreases the overall bandwidth available in the cell. Therefore it is correct to say that far away users reduce the bandwidth available for other users in the cell. With HSDPA however, the effect might be weaker as here it&#8217;s up to the scheduler in the cell to decide that slow users do not eat up too much bandwidth. </p>
<p>But, and that&#8217;s the big but, networks are designed to take far away users into account, so you kind of live with the phenomenon. So the more load gets on the network the more cell sites are of course required or each cell site needs to be equipped with better antennas, more sectors or a second transmitter per sector. But an increase in users will also result in an increase in revenue and will quite likely lead to the operators expanding their network.</p>
<p>I find it also typical that now that there is an service that could fill some of the gao left by the low DSL penetration that the first reaction seems to find fault with it&#8230;.</p>
<p>E.</p>
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		<title>By: Danny</title>
		<link>http://www.mulley.net/2007/05/30/hello-3g-bye-bye-hotspots-hello-again-3g-bye-bye-wimax-hello/#comment-263022</link>
		<dc:creator>Danny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 09:40:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is the 3 3g card pc express 3/4 or a regular pc card? I need a pc express 3/4 card , can I get the 3 contract and get my own card? Do I still have to pay for their card I won't be using?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is the 3 3g card pc express 3/4 or a regular pc card? I need a pc express 3/4 card , can I get the 3 contract and get my own card? Do I still have to pay for their card I won&#8217;t be using?</p>
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		<title>By: irishflirtysomething</title>
		<link>http://www.mulley.net/2007/05/30/hello-3g-bye-bye-hotspots-hello-again-3g-bye-bye-wimax-hello/#comment-262991</link>
		<dc:creator>irishflirtysomething</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 09:32:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As per above you are using a relatively free network and bugger all investment is being made by Voda due to their declining revenues.  

Also the EU has not capped data roaming so you can expect to be screwed on this for the next few years, particularly as they have to make up for lost roaming call revenue.  

However do enjoy while you still can!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As per above you are using a relatively free network and bugger all investment is being made by Voda due to their declining revenues.  </p>
<p>Also the EU has not capped data roaming so you can expect to be screwed on this for the next few years, particularly as they have to make up for lost roaming call revenue.  </p>
<p>However do enjoy while you still can!</p>
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		<title>By: Robin Blandford</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robin Blandford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 21:40:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Antoin, that's what I was getting at above.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Antoin, that&#8217;s what I was getting at above.</p>
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		<title>By: Antoin O Lachtnain</title>
		<link>http://www.mulley.net/2007/05/30/hello-3g-bye-bye-hotspots-hello-again-3g-bye-bye-wimax-hello/#comment-262146</link>
		<dc:creator>Antoin O Lachtnain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 18:59:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only reason this works is because 3g, particularly Three, is utterly underloaded. Load it up and the whole thing will just die. In particular, if there are people using the basestation from the edge of the cell, it will reduce the performance for all the punters on the cell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only reason this works is because 3g, particularly Three, is utterly underloaded. Load it up and the whole thing will just die. In particular, if there are people using the basestation from the edge of the cell, it will reduce the performance for all the punters on the cell.</p>
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		<title>By: Danny</title>
		<link>http://www.mulley.net/2007/05/30/hello-3g-bye-bye-hotspots-hello-again-3g-bye-bye-wimax-hello/#comment-262143</link>
		<dc:creator>Danny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 18:58:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are there any providers who offer no cap or a cap that is fair?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are there any providers who offer no cap or a cap that is fair?</p>
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