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	<title>Comments on: Stop spamming the parish noticeboard &#8211; IrishBlogs.ie more spammy by the hour</title>
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		<title>By: Report Blog Entries at Planet Journals at Cloudlands</title>
		<link>http://www.mulley.net/2006/06/28/stop-spamming-the-parish-noticeboard-irishblogsie-more-spammy-by-the-hour/comment-page-1/#comment-38406</link>
		<dc:creator>Report Blog Entries at Planet Journals at Cloudlands</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jul 2006 15:35:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Following much comment about spamming in the Irish blogosphere from Maman Poulet, Damien and Bernie, we&#8217;ve added a new &#8220;report this blog entry&#8221; feature at Planet Journals.Â  Of course, this will require yet more human intervention but I hope that some review volunteers will help us out. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Following much comment about spamming in the Irish blogosphere from Maman Poulet, Damien and Bernie, we&#8217;ve added a new &#8220;report this blog entry&#8221; feature at Planet Journals.Â  Of course, this will require yet more human intervention but I hope that some review volunteers will help us out. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: EWI</title>
		<link>http://www.mulley.net/2006/06/28/stop-spamming-the-parish-noticeboard-irishblogsie-more-spammy-by-the-hour/comment-page-1/#comment-36513</link>
		<dc:creator>EWI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jul 2006 15:12:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I was sure it was a haven for middle-class, chattering mongos with an inflated sense of self-importance.&lt;/i&gt;

You&#039;re right there, Twenty - &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.freedominst.org/blog.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;that could never fit the description of a blog&lt;/a&gt; at all...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I was sure it was a haven for middle-class, chattering mongos with an inflated sense of self-importance.</i></p>
<p>You&#8217;re right there, Twenty &#8211; <a href="http://www.freedominst.org/blog.html" rel="nofollow">that could never fit the description of a blog</a> at all&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Michele</title>
		<link>http://www.mulley.net/2006/06/28/stop-spamming-the-parish-noticeboard-irishblogsie-more-spammy-by-the-hour/comment-page-1/#comment-34674</link>
		<dc:creator>Michele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Jul 2006 18:52:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just subscribe to the blogs that I am interested in and more or less ignore irishblogs.ie feed entirely</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just subscribe to the blogs that I am interested in and more or less ignore irishblogs.ie feed entirely</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://www.mulley.net/2006/06/28/stop-spamming-the-parish-noticeboard-irishblogsie-more-spammy-by-the-hour/comment-page-1/#comment-34275</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Jul 2006 01:01:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In fairness, there&#039;s nothing wrong with fashion advice and celebrity gossip. Different strokes for different folks, as the nun said to the bishop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In fairness, there&#8217;s nothing wrong with fashion advice and celebrity gossip. Different strokes for different folks, as the nun said to the bishop.</p>
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		<title>By: Roger</title>
		<link>http://www.mulley.net/2006/06/28/stop-spamming-the-parish-noticeboard-irishblogsie-more-spammy-by-the-hour/comment-page-1/#comment-33696</link>
		<dc:creator>Roger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jun 2006 23:30:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve just seen this post and it&#039;s late at night so I&#039;ll try to get back to it later...but indymedia was submitted and we included it.  To date we&#039;ve probably only excluded 2 or 3 blogs (out of over 1169 and counting) which have been for legal/copyright issues where certain posts were brought to our attention.  At the moment I&#039;ve an open mind on the issue.  It could be reasonable to exclude a site that is over-prolific.  Of course if the aministrators/owners of a site want a site removed we will do so immediately.  I don&#039;t think the problem arises solely out of non-blogs being  included but also just from the increase in sheer volume of blogs means the posts move by more quickly and the likelihood of you missing a rasper from Raftery or a muse from Mulley is more likely.

In any case as the boggersphere grows the volume of post is going to increase - so we have been working on ideas to do various filters.  We were going to do &quot;technology&quot;, &quot;politics&quot; and &quot;sport&quot; filters.  We also are working on our &quot;The buzz&quot; section and bring that more to the fore.  For those who register we do have 2 buttons &quot;Add this blog&quot; - and then you can look at &quot;My Blogs&quot; like a feed reader.   Also if more people were inclined to categorise their posts it would be easier for people to filter them out.  So using search, filters, the buzz, &quot;my blogs&quot; and categories/tags people should have some tools to help them find what they want.  At the moment my thinking is that excluding sites will only put off the issue rather than resolve it and may indeed cause even more disputes - the days of a cosy coterie of bloggers may be over.  As I said I&#039;m very open on this and will take heed of comments by users and bloggers.

We could of course do an &quot;A-list Bloggers&quot; page. :) . Now that would cause ructions.  What about an &quot;Irish Blog Awards Nominees&quot; page?  A &quot;Tech Bloggers&quot; page?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve just seen this post and it&#8217;s late at night so I&#8217;ll try to get back to it later&#8230;but indymedia was submitted and we included it.  To date we&#8217;ve probably only excluded 2 or 3 blogs (out of over 1169 and counting) which have been for legal/copyright issues where certain posts were brought to our attention.  At the moment I&#8217;ve an open mind on the issue.  It could be reasonable to exclude a site that is over-prolific.  Of course if the aministrators/owners of a site want a site removed we will do so immediately.  I don&#8217;t think the problem arises solely out of non-blogs being  included but also just from the increase in sheer volume of blogs means the posts move by more quickly and the likelihood of you missing a rasper from Raftery or a muse from Mulley is more likely.</p>
<p>In any case as the boggersphere grows the volume of post is going to increase &#8211; so we have been working on ideas to do various filters.  We were going to do &#8220;technology&#8221;, &#8220;politics&#8221; and &#8220;sport&#8221; filters.  We also are working on our &#8220;The buzz&#8221; section and bring that more to the fore.  For those who register we do have 2 buttons &#8220;Add this blog&#8221; &#8211; and then you can look at &#8220;My Blogs&#8221; like a feed reader.   Also if more people were inclined to categorise their posts it would be easier for people to filter them out.  So using search, filters, the buzz, &#8220;my blogs&#8221; and categories/tags people should have some tools to help them find what they want.  At the moment my thinking is that excluding sites will only put off the issue rather than resolve it and may indeed cause even more disputes &#8211; the days of a cosy coterie of bloggers may be over.  As I said I&#8217;m very open on this and will take heed of comments by users and bloggers.</p>
<p>We could of course do an &#8220;A-list Bloggers&#8221; page. <img src='http://www.mulley.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  . Now that would cause ructions.  What about an &#8220;Irish Blog Awards Nominees&#8221; page?  A &#8220;Tech Bloggers&#8221; page?</p>
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		<title>By: Twenty Major</title>
		<link>http://www.mulley.net/2006/06/28/stop-spamming-the-parish-noticeboard-irishblogsie-more-spammy-by-the-hour/comment-page-1/#comment-33495</link>
		<dc:creator>Twenty Major</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jun 2006 07:56:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;*Câ€™mon twenty, if you want to move your humour up to the next level, youâ€™re going to have to move on from simple repetition of cliches. Although they may get the easy laughs, they lack comedic insight which is what the best comedy aspires to.&lt;/i&gt;

You&#039;re right, Sir. As soon as I find a new way to make fun of Indymedia I&#039;ll get right back to you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>*Câ€™mon twenty, if you want to move your humour up to the next level, youâ€™re going to have to move on from simple repetition of cliches. Although they may get the easy laughs, they lack comedic insight which is what the best comedy aspires to.</i></p>
<p>You&#8217;re right, Sir. As soon as I find a new way to make fun of Indymedia I&#8217;ll get right back to you.</p>
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		<title>By: Chekov</title>
		<link>http://www.mulley.net/2006/06/28/stop-spamming-the-parish-noticeboard-irishblogsie-more-spammy-by-the-hour/comment-page-1/#comment-33365</link>
		<dc:creator>Chekov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jun 2006 23:51:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I think what most annoys people about Indymediaâ€™s presence on Irishblogs.ie is the rapaciously large number of articles published and subsequently appearing. People seem fine with the likes of Toirtrap - who posts at Indymedia as well, I think - because itâ€™s only one article every so often.&lt;/i&gt;

I agree.  Irishblogs has been degrading for a while now under the weight of spammers.  I was merely arguing that those who took particular umbrage to the indymedia posts were viewing the world through anti-red tinted glasses.  The labour party photo feeds, the Oasis bulletins, the CSO statistics, the political press offices and so on have all been gaining more space and that&#039;s not really what most blog readers want to see.  

I think that technical solutions such as report buttons / user preferences and so on all help, some sort of loose definition of standards that blogs are expected to adhere to is indispensible.  The very fact that somebody was able to subscribe indymedia to the irishblogs feed without any of the indymedia editors knowing about signifies that the current regime is too loose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I think what most annoys people about Indymediaâ€™s presence on Irishblogs.ie is the rapaciously large number of articles published and subsequently appearing. People seem fine with the likes of Toirtrap &#8211; who posts at Indymedia as well, I think &#8211; because itâ€™s only one article every so often.</i></p>
<p>I agree.  Irishblogs has been degrading for a while now under the weight of spammers.  I was merely arguing that those who took particular umbrage to the indymedia posts were viewing the world through anti-red tinted glasses.  The labour party photo feeds, the Oasis bulletins, the CSO statistics, the political press offices and so on have all been gaining more space and that&#8217;s not really what most blog readers want to see.  </p>
<p>I think that technical solutions such as report buttons / user preferences and so on all help, some sort of loose definition of standards that blogs are expected to adhere to is indispensible.  The very fact that somebody was able to subscribe indymedia to the irishblogs feed without any of the indymedia editors knowing about signifies that the current regime is too loose.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://www.mulley.net/2006/06/28/stop-spamming-the-parish-noticeboard-irishblogsie-more-spammy-by-the-hour/comment-page-1/#comment-33360</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jun 2006 23:27:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Could also have a filter system whereby a user can blacklist certain feeds and save settings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could also have a filter system whereby a user can blacklist certain feeds and save settings.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jun 2006 23:26:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chekov,

I think what most annoys people about Indymedia&#039;s presence on Irishblogs.ie is the rapaciously large number of articles published and subsequently appearing. People seem fine with the likes of Toirtrap - who posts at Indymedia as well, I think - because it&#039;s only one article every so often. I clicked on Irishblogs.ie today, and had to scroll to the end of the page in order to surpass the litany of Indymedia posts. 

Indymedia appears spurious on Irishblogs.ie, and I think that is to the disadvantage of both parties.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chekov,</p>
<p>I think what most annoys people about Indymedia&#8217;s presence on Irishblogs.ie is the rapaciously large number of articles published and subsequently appearing. People seem fine with the likes of Toirtrap &#8211; who posts at Indymedia as well, I think &#8211; because it&#8217;s only one article every so often. I clicked on Irishblogs.ie today, and had to scroll to the end of the page in order to surpass the litany of Indymedia posts. </p>
<p>Indymedia appears spurious on Irishblogs.ie, and I think that is to the disadvantage of both parties.</p>
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		<title>By: danger</title>
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		<dc:creator>danger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jun 2006 23:19:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe just stick a small &#039;report this feed&#039; button on each entry, then the admin (s?) can scan reported feeds and remove them? Could have a threshold, ie. don&#039;t show feeds reported more than twice...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe just stick a small &#8216;report this feed&#8217; button on each entry, then the admin (s?) can scan reported feeds and remove them? Could have a threshold, ie. don&#8217;t show feeds reported more than twice&#8230;</p>
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