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	<title>Comments on: Sunday Times on shut down of El Paso Times</title>
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		<title>By: David Carroll</title>
		<link>http://www.mulley.net/2006/04/02/sunday-times-on-shut-down-of-el-paso-times/comment-page-1/#comment-230960</link>
		<dc:creator>David Carroll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 18:36:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Over a year now since all the El Paso episode!  It seems that all the parties have done well except The El Paso Times.
The radio guy was real and forced the authorities to attention.
I was able to locate the radio programs and network with no problem.
El Paso was posting things using Ted Randal&#039;s name.
Randal took action I am told.
Brian Johnston went after them and nailed them!
El Paso backed off rather quickly!
All is well! blogging is still here!
El Paso is a thing of the past!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Over a year now since all the El Paso episode!  It seems that all the parties have done well except The El Paso Times.<br />
The radio guy was real and forced the authorities to attention.<br />
I was able to locate the radio programs and network with no problem.<br />
El Paso was posting things using Ted Randal&#8217;s name.<br />
Randal took action I am told.<br />
Brian Johnston went after them and nailed them!<br />
El Paso backed off rather quickly!<br />
All is well! blogging is still here!<br />
El Paso is a thing of the past!</p>
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		<title>By: Twenty Major</title>
		<link>http://www.mulley.net/2006/04/02/sunday-times-on-shut-down-of-el-paso-times/comment-page-1/#comment-1993</link>
		<dc:creator>Twenty Major</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Apr 2006 21:30:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Notice the letter from the solicitor (was it a solicitor) appears to be gone now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Notice the letter from the solicitor (was it a solicitor) appears to be gone now.</p>
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		<title>By: Bernie Goldbach</title>
		<link>http://www.mulley.net/2006/04/02/sunday-times-on-shut-down-of-el-paso-times/comment-page-1/#comment-1990</link>
		<dc:creator>Bernie Goldbach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Apr 2006 20:16:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the facts are as EPT say, the fool is the mainstream media editor who ran a half-page story without fact-checking in either Nashville and Dundalk. You can always get a ringback to potential court appearances unless you&#039;re holding a live wire for a stage act. I was looking for the &quot;unavailable for comment at press time&quot; trailer on the Sunday Times piece and wondered if it was cut for space or not part of the original piece.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the facts are as EPT say, the fool is the mainstream media editor who ran a half-page story without fact-checking in either Nashville and Dundalk. You can always get a ringback to potential court appearances unless you&#8217;re holding a live wire for a stage act. I was looking for the &#8220;unavailable for comment at press time&#8221; trailer on the Sunday Times piece and wondered if it was cut for space or not part of the original piece.</p>
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		<title>By: Twenty Major</title>
		<link>http://www.mulley.net/2006/04/02/sunday-times-on-shut-down-of-el-paso-times/comment-page-1/#comment-1965</link>
		<dc:creator>Twenty Major</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Apr 2006 15:55:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If it is it&#039;s a real classic. heh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it is it&#8217;s a real classic. heh.</p>
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		<title>By: Bernard</title>
		<link>http://www.mulley.net/2006/04/02/sunday-times-on-shut-down-of-el-paso-times/comment-page-1/#comment-1964</link>
		<dc:creator>Bernard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Apr 2006 15:55:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who was supposed to be the fool?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who was supposed to be the fool?</p>
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		<title>By: Damien</title>
		<link>http://www.mulley.net/2006/04/02/sunday-times-on-shut-down-of-el-paso-times/comment-page-1/#comment-1963</link>
		<dc:creator>Damien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Apr 2006 15:54:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just read it there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just read it there.</p>
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		<title>By: Dick OBrien</title>
		<link>http://www.mulley.net/2006/04/02/sunday-times-on-shut-down-of-el-paso-times/comment-page-1/#comment-1962</link>
		<dc:creator>Dick OBrien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Apr 2006 15:49:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The El Paso Times said its annoucement was an April Fool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The El Paso Times said its annoucement was an April Fool.</p>
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		<title>By: Bernard</title>
		<link>http://www.mulley.net/2006/04/02/sunday-times-on-shut-down-of-el-paso-times/comment-page-1/#comment-1959</link>
		<dc:creator>Bernard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Apr 2006 13:39:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1. el paso has made a statement about this womans relatives, about the kind of person they are, and (their words) always will be. 
They cannot prove this. Therefore this woman should be allowed to sue them (El Paso).

2. Anonymity: This does not help. If they can prove the damage El Paso is doing will affect this woman (she is currently in the US), it is possible they can get Google to reveal information about El Pasos owner.

3. Saying intruths in a blog is as bad (almost-due to the marginalality of blogs at the moment. This is changing) as saying these things in a bar, on the street, in a newspaper.

4. In the eyes of the law, they are a publisher. It doesn&#039;t matter if the defamation was in a comment or came fromthe keyboard of the contributor. They published it.

5. Every time Google serves up a result including the offending content, in the eyes of the law El Paso has published the content.

Theres one thing of writing something that is true and hurtful, and there is another thing of writing something that is hurtful, and unproven.

El Paso: remove, apologise and go on.

bernard

El Paso should remove the post they have insulted her with, give an apology and go on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. el paso has made a statement about this womans relatives, about the kind of person they are, and (their words) always will be.<br />
They cannot prove this. Therefore this woman should be allowed to sue them (El Paso).</p>
<p>2. Anonymity: This does not help. If they can prove the damage El Paso is doing will affect this woman (she is currently in the US), it is possible they can get Google to reveal information about El Pasos owner.</p>
<p>3. Saying intruths in a blog is as bad (almost-due to the marginalality of blogs at the moment. This is changing) as saying these things in a bar, on the street, in a newspaper.</p>
<p>4. In the eyes of the law, they are a publisher. It doesn&#8217;t matter if the defamation was in a comment or came fromthe keyboard of the contributor. They published it.</p>
<p>5. Every time Google serves up a result including the offending content, in the eyes of the law El Paso has published the content.</p>
<p>Theres one thing of writing something that is true and hurtful, and there is another thing of writing something that is hurtful, and unproven.</p>
<p>El Paso: remove, apologise and go on.</p>
<p>bernard</p>
<p>El Paso should remove the post they have insulted her with, give an apology and go on.</p>
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		<title>By: Dick OBrien</title>
		<link>http://www.mulley.net/2006/04/02/sunday-times-on-shut-down-of-el-paso-times/comment-page-1/#comment-1958</link>
		<dc:creator>Dick OBrien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Apr 2006 13:26:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Simon got there before me!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Simon got there before me!</p>
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		<title>By: Dick OBrien</title>
		<link>http://www.mulley.net/2006/04/02/sunday-times-on-shut-down-of-el-paso-times/comment-page-1/#comment-1957</link>
		<dc:creator>Dick OBrien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Apr 2006 13:25:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Auds, I wouldn&#039;t as well up on how damages are calculated. I suspect it could be a factor, but so too could be the nature and frequency of libellous comments. From what I&#039;ve heard about the El Paso Times, it&#039;s widely read, particularly in Louth. It could be seen by as many people as a local paper for example.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Auds, I wouldn&#8217;t as well up on how damages are calculated. I suspect it could be a factor, but so too could be the nature and frequency of libellous comments. From what I&#8217;ve heard about the El Paso Times, it&#8217;s widely read, particularly in Louth. It could be seen by as many people as a local paper for example.</p>
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